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Just-For-Fun What If - Couples Battle Royale

2020.09.06 08:37 kirby163 Just-For-Fun What If - Couples Battle Royale

What if the married couples in Dragonball had a battle royale against each other?
Rules:
- No weapons, technology, ki, transformations, or magic - All combatants are considered normal humans for this battle (max power level 100) - This battle royale is a test of pure martial arts and co-operation between partners - Competitors can be eliminated by ring-out or knockout - If one member of a couple is eliminated, so is the other - Killing another competitor results in the killer's team being eliminated - Battle ends when all teams but one have been eliminated
These rules exist as they are to give the normal humans an opportunity to participate fairly.
Participants:
- Goku and Chichi - Vegeta and Bulma - Krillin and 18 - Gohan and Videl - (others I may have forgotten about)
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2020.08.28 07:23 anonymus_owl1320 CONCEPT

So now that partner super attacks are a thing with certain cards around that change the animation. What about that but with enemies.
I present. Transforming base goku from the goku black arc.
Base form unless facing a combination category enemy.
The animation then splits the sprite into 2 characters and it's when goku rages against black for killing chichi and goten.
I havent thought of the exact details of the card but the transformation tied behind combination is a good restriction then if it's a future category enemy or an ext potara category unit he has attacks effective against all types.
Since we have seen card arts include other characters I think his base card art should be him being stabbed by goku black through zamasu.
This would not be an lr character. I do not think it is hype enough but I can be wrong. If you think otherwise pls let me know.
Also psyched for vegito... YOSHA!
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2020.07.27 18:39 shonenhikada How do you think Saiyan society view homosexuality?

As we know, Goku in the abridge series is at least bisexual with the possibility of him being gay if we use supporting statements in the series of Goku seeing ChiChi as an ally rather than a romantic partner.
Now, with that being said, how do you think homosexuality is viewed on planet vegeta? Do you think saiyan culture accepts or are against it? If, you say the former then wouldn't that mean saiyans are far more civilized as a society if they are able to set aside phobias of race, religion, sex etc?
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2020.07.27 07:50 Skeletal-Pumpkin Dbz or bnha partners needed!

Welp! I feel like playing as a villain. A badass queen type of villain. Im planning on having her be with Goku or Bakugou in the rp depending on if you wand a dbz rp or bnha. If dbz her she'll have more abilities and power if bnha I'll need to limit them to 2 quirks and with a branch. Now before i start with the info! I am 18+ and all participants and characters must be as well!
Plot: A new villain begins taking over the city and upon finding this out (whoever you play as) will have to find and stop her however during the battle Empress gets injured and immobilized and is given a choice to stand down and be reformed or be arrested and face trial and she decides on 'reforming' in order to kill (Y/c)
Info!
× age 18- 22
× height 5'3
× Body and appearance Empress is a young gorgeous woman with a semi pear shaped body, Her skins a caramel color and she has kinkycurly ombre dark espresso and platinum blonde hair thats down to her back. Her eyes are strange and other than her queenly appearance is what mostly catches people's eyes, they're silver with a pastel green hue with red around her scelra when normal and when using her powers her scelra turns completely red. Her skins flawless except for a few beautymarks and scars on her back however she'll gain a scar down her lip caused by your character during battle. Her wardrobe/attire is classy yet sexy, she always wears heels and has her make-up done even when fighting, her dresses usually hug her hips and show off her shoulders with a bit of cleavage, but if she finds the dress shows too much she'll have lace floral pattern to cover it up or wear a cloak. Her make up is always done well and light bold looking but still natural as she wants to look stunning and jaw dropping when the time comes when she has to like dates or events.
Personality- Empress gives off the appearance of a calm and collected woman who's cold and expects perfection from everyone and everything. However in reality and when she meets someone fun and worth of her time she cuts loose teasing and tricking them like a fox. She's also very nobel even for a villain, she'll use people to fight for her however if someone worthy wants to fight her she'll do them the honors of fighting them with her sword or hand to hand. Something that also ties into her nobility is the fact she won't fight someone unarmed or helpless nor will she harm children and will attack whoever does. So she has some morals and personal rules she goes by along with the no attacking the unarmed and kids she'll also stay by the person shes defeated or possibly killed until someone gets them and only then will she disappear.
RP trigger warnings and info!
Warning! This rp will contain triggering topics such as violence, Nsfw, possible instances of abuse or mentions of, mentions of divorce or cheating (goku route chichi either leaves or cheats on goku), women fighting men/men fighting women, cursing, Domination and masochism. And ect. If you have issues with such things im afraid im not the partner for you.
Rules:
Please use 3rd person and give decent replies
Please don't spam me for replies. I'll reply when i can
You can be male or female irl for the roles i don't mind.
Your health comes first. If you don't feel up to rp just let me know and we can chat.
Im also looking for friends. Not just strict rp partners. I wanna chat and talk about whats going on in the rp as well and make it fun.
Smut is allowed but its not the whole plot
Plots:
Goku x Empress × to be chatted about
Endeavor× Empress to be chatted about
Bakugou x Empress × to be chatted about
Warren Chae x Empress to be chatted about.
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2020.06.30 10:28 rocky2200 @DBZ Fans: What would you call the relationship between Goku and ChiChi, where one partner is Aro-Ace and the other is not?

Toriyama said that Goku sees ChiChi as a friend rather than a wife while she’s clearly romantically and physically attracted to him. She seems happy regardless I guess. Is this possible irl and if so is there a name for this? Please don’t roast I’m not knowledgeable about the finer details of the ace/aro spectrum and want to learn.
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2020.05.19 06:21 lnombredelarosa Goku's closest friends

Goku has several friends and I suppose he considers them all to be pretty close but I've noted that among his friends there is a select group of people that he is particularly close to; you could say this are his go to people when it comes to facing a threat, receiving advice, taking care of his family or in general just hanging out. Its not that he favors them so much as that he trusts them more when things get serious as he knows how they'll react because he knows them best.
This four are the people Goku considers his silings to degree he'll never acknowledge Raditz to be. Even Goku's own children, Gohan in particular, think of them as parental figures. Since Goku grew up mostly alone other than his grandfather his attachment to them as family came to be essential in motivating him to gain the strenght that he has.
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2020.03.12 22:32 vikingkid002 How They Can Fix Dragon Ball Super

Super is known for having lots of issues. Not just in lacking any developement or forward movement between even the MAIN characters(RIP any minor characters), but also in taking several steps back in a lot of cases, and trying to play to nostalgia instead of creating new memorable moments or ideas. This has plagued the series and has yet to be fixed - in fact, only three parts have anything noteworthy in introducing new dynamics and characters, being the Battle of Gods movie, Broly Movie, and the Zamasu arc fleshing out on Trunks stepping up as defender of Earth in place of Goku and Future Gohan. Beyond these instances, anything new has been used to little effect, and it is a shame.
However, unlike the original writers, we have had the luxury of seeing their end result, the community's opinions, and what worked and what didn't, and how things could have been done(arguably but unprovably) better.
So, I want to go over how I think a couple of things(not everything yet) could have been fixed in Super, mostly revolving around the Tournament of Power. Of course, it's too late for some of this to be fixed, and the things that can still be done to fix it are basically never going to happen, but I hope this gives people understanding of what went wrong, just for personal closure or so they can use it for reference for their own projects/ideas/stories.


FIXING JIREN
I don't have as much to say on Jiren as I did on Yamcha - he wasn't as much of a missed opportunity, and not a whole lot needs to be done to fix him.
Jiren's whole problem comes with his backstory and the "trauma" ordeal, which leads to a pseudo-transformation, and his obsession with power, but it is a story many people have ridiculed. In addition, it led to Jiren's boring and generic personality, giving very little to him for anyone to really care about.
So, the best way to fix Jiren is to give him more personality, and to give him a new backstory.
I'm going to offer a proposal on how to do this, however as long as his personality and backstory improve, that's all that would be needed.
Instead of being a stoic who's obsessed with power, which contradicts his role as a Pride Trooper and any interest he would have in the ToP, I think it'd be far better to let him be.... friendly. Actually care about justice and people, not just power. Having an antagonist who ISN'T a bad person, or down the wrong path would be very refreshing. Simply put, he would be more caring about his fellow Pride Troopers in the ToP, care about things like friends, and so on to mirror Goku. That way, there is a stronger believability he COULD lose to Goku, knowing that he has good intentions and similar access to the wish. In fact, he'd be there for less selfish reasons than most of U7, making him the best "person" there.
The alteration to the backstory would be very simple: He just loves power. He doesn't need it, per se, he doesn't want revenge, he just loves power. As silly as that seems, here's a way it could play out:
Jiren as a kid in his village, sees other kids get bullied. Those kids are weak. Jiren is strong for his age, and knows it. So he stands up against the bullies. He succeeds in fighting them. And he starts helping other kids get stronger.
Until one of the bullies also start working to get stronger - and beat Jiren. Knock him out and beat him. And instead of being angry, Jiren enjoys it - the growth of power, the skill his opponent gained, the competition. Everything that he would eventually get from the ToP.
So Jiren comes back and challenge the bully, over and over, losing and losing until he starts winning, and to Jiren's dismay, the bully gives up. Never talks to him, never fights him again, and of all things, that's what would give Jiren emptiness. So he keeps finding new partners, new masters, new ways to fight and gain power. Until he can only get stronger by training alone, and atop his wealth of power, there is no one he can actually use it against.
An antagonist who is friendly, and wants to be able to go all out - his obsession with power is not for it to be a tool, but a genuine passion. So his "trauma breaking" full power form in the anime, would instead become him actually getting to go all out against Goku, pushing Goku to Ultra Instinct, until while every other contestant is fighting in the Tournament of Power to save their universe, Goku and Jiren are fighting to enjoy the fight. Goku who had friends along the way to work and grow with him, Jiren who has been alone in this and finally found people to "share his strength with".
Jiren's boredness and coldness in the ToP would not stop him from being a decent person to his allies and would no longer be his defining traits, his revenge story would not contradict his role as a Pride Trooper, and his interactions with Goku and growth would make a lot more sense, and what Goku saw in him that made him "not such a bad guy" would actually be there.

FIXING THE TOP IN GENERAL
There are a list of problems with the ToP that are almost inevitable, as a result of everything the writers were trying to achieve. There are crowning moments worth the watch, and there are some parts that are incredibly underutilized. So, these will be a lot more...compact, than Jiren was and Yamcha's will be, as there is a lot of ground to cover, and very little needed to be done.
Firstly: Match-ups. There are a lot of major match-ups that should have happened that never did.
For example, Hit and Dyspo would have been perfect. Hit, a morally lacking time traveling assassin who freezes time but can be outsped, and is an incredible chaser - Dyspo, hyper fast and slippery. I could see many great moments in a fight like that. Hit would freeze time, approach Dyspo, and as time unpauses Dyspo has fled faster than Hit can see. Hit could break Dyspo's legs, and Dyspo crawls away. The idea of a skilled chaser and a slippery escapist is such a fitting dynamic, and watching Hit try to trap Dyspo in, using the other battles in the environment to pin him would have been fantastic.
Roshi and Universe 2. Roshi had the whole thing about getting over dealing with having to fight girls, letting his wisdom and experience as a fighter overtake his perverted nature. Universe 2 is a bunch of sailor moon girls obsessed with love and beauty. It seemed like the perfect match-up, but didn't happen, and it was so bizarre. Roshi did have many great moments, but I think he would have been better off making Universe 2 more bearable.
Universe 2. Make them less annoying. Their designs are great(Ribrianne's being debatable), and having a Sailor Moon influence in DBZ with transformations was niche but entertaining and a good idea. I didn't find them as annoying as most people, but I have yet to find another person who had the same experience. Everyone just seems to hate them, so something has to happen. Maybe give the individual members more independence, and a more dynamic co-operation? Each could have their own skills and niches to bring to the table, and aren't all joined at the hip. Having more one on one fights and interactions and more distinguishable personalities that don't revolve 100% around "beauty and love". Instead of JUST being a niche parody, being more grounded as characters simultaneously.
Gohan and Piccolo. Everything. Gohan was implemented as leader, but no one listened to him. Instead of being punished, or Gohan stepping in to fix things after consequences ensue...Gohan gets outted before most of the other people. And Piccolo, the strategist, gets stumped on the worst things, showcasing no sort of intellect through the majority of it, and has been reduced to fodder. Piccolo's issue has been present as long as the Buu arc, and Gohan's for all of Super. The writers keep trying to shoe-horn in the less relevant fighters, but never do so in a meaningful impactful way.
For example, anyone who tries to fight Beerus in Battle of Gods. Anyone who fights the Frieza Force in Resurrection of F. Everyone who doesn't even show up in the Broly movie. Everyone who never even hears about what happens in the Zamasu arc. It gets even worse in ToP. Some Z-Fighters DO get improvements- Roshi v Universe 2 is a missed opportunity, but he does get moments to shine and for some people is the highlight of the whole tournament. But then you get Tien. Android 18. Krillin. Piccolo, and even Gohan. And then it gets worse again in the manga(spoilers), with the Moro Arc, where they're fighting fodder again but now with symbols on their shirts. They never are given respectable roles against actual villains, and it really is a shame.

FIXING YAMCHA & VIDEL
Yamcha wasn't a problem ONLY in Super. He's been undermined for so long, almost everything about him that was important was dropped, and he's not even a viable fighter anymore. This I can't blame on Super, and the ony thing Super did with him I can appreciate - was having him replaced by Frieza, and expecting to be invited to the ToP.
This doesn't fix anything, just gives him an interesting unexplored angle. I have a proposal of what I would have love to see happen(though of course Super never intended to and I don't think ever would do this), but first I need to cover all the issues that Yamcha brings to the table.
Firstly, his girl troubles are never resolved. It was noted that he has always had trouble with women, and Bulma never ended up liking being with him. In fact, she ends up with the guy who killed him. To this date, Yamcha's storyline around girls which has been present since OG Dragonball, has no satisfying resolution.
Secondly, he has not improved as a person. He was a bandit in OG dragon ball, and has been along for the ride for personal reasons - he had grown in there, but in Z he has been relegated to fodder for the enemies in Saiyan and Cell saga, and became a literal joke from then forward. There is no problem with him being as weak as he is, not pursuing fighting, and not being taken seriously as a fighter - the problem lies in him not being taken seriously as a CHARACTER.
So, something needs to give him growth deserving of being on the "good guy" side.
Thirdly, he is irrelevant. To every plot. This is inevitable, there are many times Tien doesn't come into play, points where even Piccolo doesn't matter(Buu saga) and he doesn't have to be integrated into those points, mostly because he is no longer a fighter. In fact, in the ToP, his irrelevance is used as a joke and into the Broly movie and Moro arc it's never elaborated on.
So, here is the solution I propose, and it is very specific but I promise it'll help make Yamcha a much more interesting character, and useful going forward: He needs a daughter figure.
To cover briefly why Pan and Marron aren't good options is easy. Videl is a capable fighter, and Android 18 and Krillin are both stronger than Yamcha. So there is no reason to leave them to him - in addition, they are too young at this point to be relevant as fighters in ANY situation. Instead, in tying in with the Tournament of Power timeline and a necessity for a NEW character to fill the roll, we'll have to come up with something.
Going forward we'll work with this current assumption: That daughter figure is a rejected project used by a Universe 6 scientist, similar to a Tuffle, who was created to kill Goku as a deal with Champa. If Champa approves, while the planet still is destroyed per his schedule, the scientist is spared(death is a great motivator a God of Destruction can use). However, Champa does NOT approve - keeping that project for future use, he deems it isn't capable of defeating Goku, so the scientist and his planet are destroyed. The project is not on the schedule, and is left to their own devices(possible candidate for future tournaments as a stand-in). We will call this character Tofu, as a female equivalent to Baby. Her being in the monster character archetype would fill a myriad of thematic roles, shown below
The project exists with Son Goku as a target(she would recognize him as Goku was on GodTube), and so in search of his homeplace, she heads to U7 Earth. This fills three roles.
One, it would lead to a fight involving Goku after he and the others come back from U7, allowing Yamcha to realize he was never invited, that he was replaced with Frieza, and the daughter to meet Yamcha - as Yamcha would have been the person on Earth closest to Goku(black hair, muscular, orange gi at times, and has been around him and his areas).
Two, it would dehumanize a female character. Super has had a problem with female fighters(Kale and Caulifla come to mind). It would allow her to have a better physique without being absurdly scrawny for a fighter which DBZ seems to have a problem with(Chichi, Videl, again K&C, etc).
Three, it would make her destructive, dangerous, and to her core malicious. Which is incredibly crucial to Yamcha's developement here, and showing that he has become a better person.
It could play out like this: Tofu meets Yamcha, Yamcha agrees to help her meet Goku(being Goku is a friend of his, and he has no idea of Tofu's intent to kill Goku), and Tofu's need to grow stronger leads to her training against Yamcha. Yamcha at first is worried(since he wouldn't consider himself a good fighter), realizes how weak Tofu is, and teaches her how to fight, use ki, and incorporate skill.
The main growth would be at a world tournament, which is where Videl would be fixed. It'd give Videl a reason to stop being Chichi 2.0, get back into her fighter's style, and replace Hercule as world champ without fighting him, allowing him to remain a hero in the people's eyes, giving respect to her old man, taking over the "family business" while taking care of her bills, and keeping her battle ready for any more Earth invasions like Beerus or Frieza, all if Videl wins this world tournament. Additionally, she would get a chance to be the first to tell Yamcha that the ToP is happening WHILE Yamcha's here training for the ToP.
Tofu would learn more by fighting other opponents, and seeing more than just Yamcha to gain fighting experience. Particularly, as she'd be in the junior division, Tofu would end up against Uub(who again needs the money to feed his village/tribe, like the end of GT). Tofu's maliciousness could come into play here, since unlike Yamcha, Uub isn't necessary for Tofu to find Goku - so she would cheat against him, and quite possibly try to kill him.
This is where Yamcha's moral high ground comes into play, where he teaches her respectful fighting, how to treat others with care, and to value even opponents or people who aren't useful to you. Yamcha would serve as a moral compass for a would-be Baby, Cell, Buu situation.
Afterwards, when the ToP is over, Goku and friends return, Yamcha learns Frieza was his replacement but is(ideally) accepting of this and understanding, acknowledging he's not the fighter he once was, and gets to introduce Tofu to Goku. Tofu, as a result of Yamcha's teachings, learns to respect Goku, and even decides not to kill him - after she gets whooped by him. Keeping Tofu from being really strong too early, giving her time to grow, and with her at least being able to keep in pace with EARLY Goku(base to SSJ or SSJ2 at most), she would have a place in future arcs as a defender of Earth - and Yamcha as her teacher and "parent".
This would resolve Yamcha's "lady issues" without actually giving him a love interest. This would give him a role to play, akin to Hercule with Buu but without...y'know...the sleeping and missing out on the arc stuff. And would cement him as a good person, and accepting of his place letting his ego subside.
It would also bring Uub in without actually having him interact with Goku, to give him screentime to develope and flesh out as a character, without contradicting the ending of Z(if that matters), give Videl her fighter status back without the back-peddling Super did to her, and give closure on Hercule's retirement.

If anyone got this far, thank you for reading! I know it's a lot, and not exactly the kind of thing people love reading or talking about when it comes to DBZ or Super, especially post-haste of the series, but I hope this gives some people more clarity on what went wrong and what could have been done to improve(Or, everyone tells me why my ideas were wrong and can help me improve, a win-win situation).
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2020.03.06 21:20 JonLucPerr1776 What do you think would have happened differently in the World Tournament arcs in Dragon Ball and in the arcs immediately after them if the matchups had been different?

For example, if the matchups were like this:
21st WMAT: Match 1 is Jackie Chun (Roshi) vs. Namu, Match 2 is Yamcha vs. Ranfan, Match 3 is Krillin vs. Giran, and Match 4 is Goku vs. Bacterian.
Do you think the semifinalists and finalists would still be the same? Would Goku still turn into an Oozaru in this arc? Are there any ways these brackets change the Red Ribbon Army Arc afterwards?
22nd WMAT: Match 1 is Krillin vs. Tenshinhan, Match 2 is Man Wolf vs. Pamput, Match 3 is Goku vs. Chaotzu, and Match 4 is Jackie Chun (Roshi) vs. Yamcha (remember this is a much stronger Yamcha and a stronger Jackie Chun than when they fought each other in the 21st WMAT).
How do these fights go? Is the end of the tournament the same? Would Tenshinhan still stop following Crane Hermit's teachings in this scenario? Does the fact that Tenshinhan doesn't break Yamcha's leg cause Krillin to not get killed by Tamborine while going back to get Yamcha's crutch? How else might this change the King Piccolo Arc?
23rd WMAT: Match 1 is Cyborg Tao vs. Chi Chi, Match 2 is Tenshinhan vs. Ma Jr. (Piccolo), Match 3 is Krillin vs. Yamcha, and Match 4 is Goku vs. Shen/Hero (Kami).
If Chichi and Goku don't fight each other in the tournament, do they still get married? Would Chichi get seriously hurt by Tao or Piccolo? Is Krillin already stronger than Yamcha at this point? If Goku fights Kami, would Kami even still get sealed up and swallowed by Piccolo at all? Does the outcome of these fights change the Raditz Arc or the rest of the Saiyan Saga in any ways?
25th WMAT: Match 1 is Videl vs. Puntar, Match 2 is Krillin vs. Yamu, Match 3 is Mighty Mask (Goten and Trunks) vs. Shin (Supreme Kai), Match 4 is Killa vs. Spopovich, Match 5 is Ma Jr. (Piccolo) vs. Kibito, Match 6 is Great Saiyaman (Gohan) vs. 18, Match 7 is Mr. Satan vs. Jewel, and Match 8 is Vegeta vs. Goku. If there is no 2nd/3rd round, there will be a rumble of whichever 1st/2nd round match winners don't leave. Remember the Saiyans (except for Goten and Trunks, who are participating incognito) have agreed not to use Super Saiyan forms in the Tournament and to have a real match later, away from the public eye, although they may not actually stick by their agreement.
Is Videl stronger than the gigantic Puntar or would she have to resort to flying to win? Spopovich's inhuman toughness was too much for Videl, but how would his partner fare against Krillin? Would Supreme Kai figure out what is up with Mighty Mask and how to deal with Goten and Trunks? We all know Piccolo thought he couldn't beat Supreme Kai, but how would he fare against the Kai's attendant Kibito? Can Gohan defeat 18 without going Super Saiyan? Would Mr. Satan's match against Jewel be an easy victory or a close one? How far would Goku and Vegeta go if they actually got to fight each other in a tournament match? Would the quarterfinal, semifinal, and final rounds actually happen with these matchups, unlike in the timeline we know? Would Vegeta even become a Majin and Buu get released with all these changes, or would something totally different happen?
Do you think any of these altered tournaments would have any lasting effect on the course of the series in general?
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2020.03.05 03:46 DarthVegeta How awesome is this DBZ timeline where Goku & Vegeta's families are included?

For anyone willing to read, Ive written a cool alternate timeline.
I like creating more idealized alt history scenarios of various anime, so while working at Goodwill I've thought of one for DBZ. That expands the cast of heroes & makes things more how they should be.
So in short, my timeline consists of Bardock taking his family to Earth, the Z Fighters being larger & more organized like the MHA Hero Association, & Vegeta's parents being kept alive by Frieza. Also Vegeta's parents turn out to be the 1st to go SSJ in 1000 years, giving Vegeta a sense of pride. In the end, the Earth has 2 formidable groups protecting it, the Saiyan tribe & the Z Heroes.
Now for the long story for those that have the patience:
Bardock decides to take his family to Earth, knowing Frieza will destroy the planet & it will give them a chance for a new start. Raditz follows the call back to the planet too & is forced by Bardock to come with them. When Frieza arrives, he is still attacked by King Vegeta's elite forces, but knocks out the King with a tailwhip & vaporizes the squad with Queen Karin outside the room. He forces the injured king to wake up & witness the end of his planet. The Queen is arrested by Zarbon who then asks if he can kill them, Frieza says "no, I have a special treatment in mind for them, they're royalty after all".
Back on Earth, the Bardock family arrives near Grandpa Gohan's home, who then comes out to investigate the 3 crashes. Bardock initially rejects his offer for help until it rains. They stay with him till Bardock Gine & Raditz can finish building their own castle nearby. Kakarot still forms a bond with Gohan who takes care of him while the Saiyans are busy setting themselves up. Obv Gohan is never killed since they know about the Ozaru stuff.
Bulma still arrives years later for Gohan's dragonball, turns out he never told the Saiyans about the dragonballs. Bardock wants to use them to bring back Planet Vegeta & form a rebellion against Frieza so he, Raditz, & Kakarot set out with her. Needless to say, nothing they fight is a match, & for a while Bardock & Raditz develop a Saitama-complex, letting Kakarot do alot of the fighting since he can still get a challenge from it. Most of the Pilaf saga is skipped, but when the 1st wish comes around, Bardock wishes for the return of Planet Vegeta & the Saiyans killed "sorry but that wish cannot be granted", "then I wish for you to destroy Frieza" "sorry but that wish also cannot be granted, for Frieza is far beyond my power". Then Pilaf sneaks up & wishes to rule the world, which gets granted sort of, though his rule doesnt last long & the Saiyans can still go through his armies & remove him.
Skip to when King Piccolo is brought back & gathers the dragonballs. Bardock Raditz & Kakarot show up to confront him to their disappointment. He says if only he was younger he would be able to defeat them, arrogantly they allow him to make his wish for youth then he destroys the dragon, catching them off guard. He's still no match for Bardock or Raditz, but is able to give Kakarot a more even fight. Raditz or Bardock nearly kill him & he shoots out the Piccolo egg saying he hopes his offspring can be a better match for them. Kakarot says he looks forward to it.
By this time, many martial artists who've encountered & been humiliated by the Saiyans have been recruited by a new dojo. While Roshi & Shen were bitter rivals in the Canon, in this timeline they decide to put aside their differences & create a greater dojo to recruit & train humans against the Saiyans. It starts off as the Turtle-Crane school of martial arts.
Kid Piccolo is found by former-mercenary Tao (now helping out at the Turtle-Crane dojo) & recruited, so instead of living on his own, Piccolo is raised by the dojo.
In place of King Piccolo taking over the kingdom, a rebellious teenage Raditz becomes a temporary villain, as he is fed up with living at home & feels Saiyans are entitled to rule over humans. He easily goes through King Furry's forces & claims his throne. Some of the dojo's fighters show up to confront him (mostly Tien Yamcha & Krillin with some Red Ribbon survivors) but are obv no match. Eventually Bardock & Kakarot show up to confront him. He argues with them how Earthlings should be grateful they arent exterminating them & to go conquer their own kingdoms. Bardock makes Kakarot fight him to toughen him up, once Kakarot is too injured, Bardock puts an end to Raditz's reign. He apologizes to King Furry for his son & they have another Dragonball collecting adventure to bring back the soldiers Raditz killed.
This coup brought a new wave of support for the Turtle-Crane Dojo & Earthling nationalism, King Furry decides to start sponsoring it as a paramilitary dojo & donating his best troops to train at it, since it boosted Tien Yamcha & Krillin enough to fight Raditz for a min & survive. Capsule Corp also decides to sponsor it. I imagine the DB Evolution gi would be a fitting uniform for fighters of this grand dojo. With state & big tech funding, the Turtle-Crane Dojo begins to be more like the My Hero Association.
Skip to the timeskip & 3 Saiyan children are made. 1st Kakarot & Chichi still end up making Gohan, then Raditz has a daughter Ranch, then Bardock & Gine have a 3rd son they name Kato.
It is now early DBZ, Vegeta & Nappa land on Earth to see why Kakarot hasn't wiped out it's life. Their scouters take them right to Bardock & family. The Bardock family senses them & flies to them, meeting in a large battlefield. Vegeta & Nappa are shocked to see an entire family of Saiyans. Bardock tells them the long story about how he raised his family on earth & how Frieza wiped out their planet. Vegeta is in shock & needs to modify their plans. A squad from the Z Hero dojo arrives to investigate the high power levels. Vegeta says "This news does change everything, & I've waited patiently for any chance to destroy Frieza & his minions. But we still showed up for a fight. Tell you what, if you Earth Saiyans can best us in battle & prove yourselves worthy allies, we will join you, afterall Saiyans do get stronger from battle. & if your Earth friends there can defeat our Saibamen & prove they arent worthless trash, we will cancel our plans to wipe out Humans & allow them to join our little resistance. Saibamen! I want them alive, do your best but don't kill them.'"
Bardock is still the strongest Earth Saiyan & fights Vegeta, resembling Goku & Vegeta's 1st fight, except without Kaioken. Kakarot & Raditz fight Nappa but don't do well, & Gine decides to jump in & Nappa powers up, throwing them back. Meanwhile Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha, Krillin, Nam, Silver, Chappa, (boosted to around 500-800 p lvls) etc fight the Saibamen & struggle to defeat them. Gohan, Ranch, & Kato come later to see the battle, Gohan eventually gets upset seeing his father, uncle, & grandmother getting beat up by Nappa & headbutts him, giving him a parallel injury that Raditz originally got. "You little brat!!" Nappa yells swatting Gohan. Ranch & Kato try to intervene but Gine & Raditz order them to stay back. A Saibaman that Yamcha kicked out lands near Kakarot, presumed gone. As a beaten up Kakarot lunges for another attack, the Saibaman springs up, attaching itself to Kakarot, & explodes. Bardock sees this & goes into False Super Saiyan, beating the crap out of Vegeta & Nappa. As he throws Nappa in the air, about to blast him like Vegeta originally did, Gine stops him, telling him its not their fault & to please calm down. He goes back to normal & says "they killed our son & you want me to spare them?" "remember they ordered the Saibamen not to kill, it must have acted on its own". Nappa hits the ground & Bardock questions & Nappa confirms it was an accident. They head over to Kakarot who's body vanishes with Piccolo once again saying "this must be Kami's work, they must have a plan for him." Kami telepathically tells them that King Kai wants to train Kakarot & to wait a year before bringing him back. But it turns out the Frieza force overheard most of it on their scouters, finding out there is a family of strong Saiyans on Earth, & that Vegeta & Nappa have defected. Vegeta crawls over to his scouter, listens in on the Frieza agents, & hears that the Ginyu force is being sent to Earth & freaks out. King Kai talks to everyone for the 1st time, screaming that the Ginyu force really is coming to Earth & they have about a year to train.
I'll skip over most of the Ginyu saga for now but Piccolo ends up dying again, protecting Gohan from Recoome's blast. Kakarot comes back after being trained by King Kai while Bardock finally goes Super Saiyan to defeat Ginyu, Ginyu says something about a Super Saiyan before his line goes dead.
Thanks to the abundance of Saiyan space pods, Capsule Corp is able to build a taller version of the ship Goku used to go to Namek.
All the Saiyans & elite Z Fighters head off for Namek. On their way they sense a strange power on a desolate planet. They stop to see who it is, & come across the withered King Vegeta. As said above, Frieza had been keeping him & Queen Karin barely alive on a backwater planet & often abused them. Vegeta & his parents have a reunion & fill them in on the stories, & is introduced to his new little brother Tarble. Vegeta's family packs what little they have & board the ship.
Before coming onto the ship, King Vegeta reveals that he's had a secret ability for years & goes Super Saiyan, shocking everyone, then Karin & Tarble reveal they can do it too. Turns out that Frieza had set up his prisoners for the right conditions to go SSJ, but due to malnorishment & stuff, they kept it secret from him & only planned on using it when the time was right. So the 1st Super Saiyan in a thousand years wasn't some low class Saiyan, it was Vegeta's own parents. The King & Queen appear to be withered & old, but once they each eat a senzu bean, they get significantly younger. Now the Earth alliance has some new allies on its way to Namek. Meanwhile Frieza calls his father to come to Namek & train with him saying "Ginyu revealed one of them had become a Super Saiyan, & if one of them has, its only a matter of time before the rest follow. I've never needed to train before, but now its time. Father you are the only being worthy of being a training partner" & orders his forces to collect Namek's dragonballs while he & Cold train.
& thats where I will end it for now.
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2020.03.05 03:15 DarthVegeta How awesome is my alt history Dragonball story?

I like creating more idealized alt history scenarios of various anime, so while working at Goodwill I've thought of one for DBZ. That expands the cast of heroes & makes things more how they should be.
So in short, my timeline consists of Bardock taking his family to Earth, the Z Fighters being larger & more organized like the MHA Hero Association, & Vegeta's parents being kept alive by Frieza. Also Vegeta's parents turn out to be the 1st to go SSJ in 1000 years, giving Vegeta a sense of pride. In the end, the Earth has 2 formidable groups protecting it, the Saiyan tribe & the Z Heroes.
Now for the long story for those that have the patience:
Bardock decides to take his family to Earth, knowing Frieza will destroy the planet & it will give them a chance for a new start. Raditz follows the call back to the planet too & is forced by Bardock to come with them. When Frieza arrives, he is still attacked by King Vegeta's elite forces, but knocks out the King with a tailwhip & vaporizes the squad with Queen Karin outside the room. He forces the injured king to wake up & witness the end of his planet. The Queen is arrested by Zarbon who then asks if he can kill them, Frieza says "no, I have a special treatment in mind for them, they're royalty after all".
Back on Earth, the Bardock family arrives near Grandpa Gohan's home, who then comes out to investigate the 3 crashes. Bardock initially rejects his offer for help until it rains. They stay with him till Bardock Gine & Raditz can finish building their own castle nearby. Kakarot still forms a bond with Gohan who takes care of him while the Saiyans are busy setting themselves up. Obv Gohan is never killed since they know about the Ozaru stuff.
Bulma still arrives years later for Gohan's dragonball, turns out he never told the Saiyans about the dragonballs. Bardock wants to use them to bring back Planet Vegeta & form a rebellion against Frieza so he, Raditz, & Kakarot set out with her. Needless to say, nothing they fight is a match, & for a while Bardock & Raditz develop a Saitama-complex, letting Kakarot do alot of the fighting since he can still get a challenge from it. Most of the Pilaf saga is skipped, but when the 1st wish comes around, Bardock wishes for the return of Planet Vegeta & the Saiyans killed "sorry but that wish cannot be granted", "then I wish for you to destroy Frieza" "sorry but that wish also cannot be granted, for Frieza is far beyond my power". Then Pilaf sneaks up & wishes to rule the world, which gets granted sort of, though his rule doesnt last long & the Saiyans can still go through his armies & remove him.
Skip to when King Piccolo is brought back & gathers the dragonballs. Bardock Raditz & Kakarot show up to confront him to their disappointment. He says if only he was younger he would be able to defeat them, arrogantly they allow him to make his wish for youth then he destroys the dragon, catching them off guard. He's still no match for Bardock or Raditz, but is able to give Kakarot a more even fight. Raditz or Bardock nearly kill him & he shoots out the Piccolo egg saying he hopes his offspring can be a better match for them. Kakarot says he looks forward to it.
By this time, many martial artists who've encountered & been humiliated by the Saiyans have been recruited by a new dojo. While Roshi & Shen were bitter rivals in the Canon, in this timeline they decide to put aside their differences & create a greater dojo to recruit & train humans against the Saiyans. It starts off as the Turtle-Crane school of martial arts.
Kid Piccolo is found by former-mercenary Tao (now helping out at the Turtle-Crane dojo) & recruited, so instead of living on his own, Piccolo is raised by the dojo.
In place of King Piccolo taking over the kingdom, a rebellious teenage Raditz becomes a temporary villain, as he is fed up with living at home & feels Saiyans are entitled to rule over humans. He easily goes through King Furry's forces & claims his throne. Some of the dojo's fighters show up to confront him (mostly Tien Yamcha & Krillin with some Red Ribbon survivors) but are obv no match. Eventually Bardock & Kakarot show up to confront him. He argues with them how Earthlings should be grateful they arent exterminating them & to go conquer their own kingdoms. Bardock makes Kakarot fight him to toughen him up, once Kakarot is too injured, Bardock puts an end to Raditz's reign. He apologizes to King Furry for his son & they have another Dragonball collecting adventure to bring back the soldiers Raditz killed.
This coup brought a new wave of support for the Turtle-Crane Dojo & Earthling nationalism, King Furry decides to start sponsoring it as a paramilitary dojo & donating his best troops to train at it, since it boosted Tien Yamcha & Krillin enough to fight Raditz for a min & survive. Capsule Corp also decides to sponsor it. I imagine the DB Evolution gi would be a fitting uniform for this grand dojo. With state & big tech funding, the Turtle-Crane Dojo begins to be more like the My Hero Association.
Skip to the timeskip & 3 Saiyan children are made. 1st Kakarot & Chichi still end up making Gohan, then Raditz has a daughter Ranch, then Bardock & Gine have a 3rd son they name Kato.
It is now early DBZ, Vegeta & Nappa land on Earth to see why Kakarot hasn't wiped out it's life. Their scouters take them right to Bardock & family. The Bardock family senses them & flies to them, meeting in a large battlefield. Vegeta & Nappa are shocked to see an entire family of Saiyans. Bardock tells them the long story about how he raised his family on earth & how Frieza wiped out their planet. Vegeta is in shock & needs to modify their plans. A squad from the Z Hero dojo arrives to investigate the high power levels. Vegeta says "This news does change everything, & I've waited patiently for any chance to destroy Frieza & his minions. But we still showed up for a fight. Tell you what, if you Earth Saiyans can best us in battle & prove yourselves worthy allies, we will join you, afterall Saiyans do get stronger from battle. & if your Earth friends there can defeat our Saibamen & prove they arent worthless trash, we will cancel our plans to wipe out Humans & allow them to join our little resistance. Saibamen! I want them alive, do your best but don't kill them.'"
Bardock is still the strongest Earth Saiyan & fights Vegeta, resembling Goku & Vegeta's 1st fight, except without Kaioken. Kakarot & Raditz fight Nappa but don't do well, & Gine decides to jump in & Nappa powers up, throwing them back. Meanwhile Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha, Krillin, Nam, Silver, Chappa, (boosted to around 500-800 p lvls) etc fight the Saibamen & struggle to defeat them. Gohan, Ranch, & Kato come later to see the battle, Gohan eventually gets upset seeing his father, uncle, & grandmother getting beat up by Nappa & headbutts him, giving him a parallel injury that Raditz originally got. "You little brat!!" Nappa yells swatting Gohan. Ranch & Kato try to intervene but Gine & Raditz order them to stay back. A Saibaman that Yamcha kicked out lands near Kakarot, presumed gone. As a beaten up Kakarot lunges for another attack, the Saibaman springs up, attaching itself to Kakarot, & explodes. Bardock sees this & goes into False Super Saiyan, beating the crap out of Vegeta & Nappa. As he throws Nappa in the air, about to blast him like Vegeta originally did, Gine stops him, telling him its not their fault & to please calm down. He goes back to normal & says "they killed our son & you want me to spare them?" "remember they ordered the Saibamen not to kill, it must have acted on its own". Nappa hits the ground & Bardock questions & Nappa confirms it was an accident. They head over to Kakarot who's body vanishes with Piccolo once again saying "this must be Kami's work, they must have a plan for him." Kami telepathically tells them that King Kai wants to train Kakarot & to wait a year before bringing him back. But it turns out the Frieza force overheard most of it on their scouters, finding out there is a family of strong Saiyans on Earth, & that Vegeta & Nappa have defected. Vegeta crawls over to his scouter, listens in on the Frieza agents, & hears that the Ginyu force is being sent to Earth & freaks out. King Kai talks to everyone for the 1st time, screaming that the Ginyu force really is coming to Earth & they have about a year to train.
I'll skip over most of the Ginyu saga for now but Piccolo ends up dying again, protecting Gohan from Recoome's blast. Kakarot comes back after being trained by King Kai while Bardock finally goes Super Saiyan to defeat Ginyu, Ginyu says something about a Super Saiyan before his line goes dead.
Thanks to the abundance of Saiyan space pods, Capsule Corp is able to build a taller version of the ship Goku used to go to Namek.
All the Saiyans & elite Z Fighters head off for Namek. On their way they sense a strange power on a desolate planet. They stop to see who it is, & come across the withered King Vegeta. As said above, Frieza had been keeping him & Queen Karin barely alive on a backwater planet & often abused them. Vegeta & his parents have a reunion & fill them in on the stories, & is introduced to his new little brother Tarble. Vegeta's family packs what little they have & board the ship.
Before coming onto the ship, King Vegeta reveals that he's had a secret ability for years & goes Super Saiyan, shocking everyone, then Karin & Tarble reveal they can do it too. Turns out that Frieza had set up his prisoners for the right conditions to go SSJ, but due to malnorishment & stuff, they kept it secret from him & only planned on using it when the time was right. So the 1st Super Saiyan in a thousand years wasn't some low class Saiyan, it was Vegeta's own parents. Now the Earth alliance has some new allies on its way to Namek. Meanwhile Frieza calls his father to come to Namek & train with him saying "Ginyu revealed one of them had become a Super Saiyan, & if one of them has, its only a matter of time before the rest follow. I've never needed to train before, but now its time. Father you are the only being worthy of being a training partner" & orders his forces to collect Namek's dragonballs while he & Cold train.
& thats where I will end it for now.
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2020.02.05 08:53 DiePieWhy [MM4F] Dragon Ball Stories {18+}

Hello ladies, my friend and I have thought of some ideas for Dragon Ball Z/Super. We are limitless and want to have fun with these.
Zero Mortal Men Plan: Zamasu and Goku Black have finished defeating all who oppose them and leave all the women to have as a Utopia. Not only this, as the strongest beings in all known Timelines and Dimensions, they can travel anywhere in time and space to gather more women for their collection.
Prince's Pride In Bed: ChiChi has asked Goku to get Bulma to make her a car. A simple request. He uses Instant Transmission to see her. However Vegeta has had a rough day of training and Bulma wants to help more than just making the Gravity stronger. She takes him in bed. But suddenly thereafter Goku appears and triggers Vegeta's fighting spirit to prove himself better than Goku. Vegeta challenges Goku in bed, with Bulma as each's partner.
Peace and Training in Vampa: The battle between Gogeta and Broly has closed many months ago. Lemo has died of old age and Broly and Cheelai reside alone together on the repugnant planet. They are physically expressing their love in bed, when Gogeta walks through the door curiously. He had wanted to have a surprise training session but he got the surprise.
If you are interested, message me and we can have a chat. Kik username is my reddit username.
This post is 18+ and all participants are and must be 18+
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2020.02.04 18:17 GoodForALLOfYou The Ultimate "Goku is not a bad person" post

(Note: I already posted this but I didn't format it like an idiot, and used a wrong title. Here's a better formatted one.)
Strap in boys this'll be a long one. Four pages worth of stuff long. So at first I thought people thinking Goku is a horrible person/dad was just a meme but there are apparently many people out there that really do believe this. I don't know if it's a vocal minority or just a lot of people but I've been watching DB and DBZ clips for nostalgia's sake and a lot of people in the comments mention or least seriously defend that opinion. I 100% disagree and I'll do my best to try and get the point across to those who think Goku is a bad guy/father. For one the whole "Goku is just a selfish person and nothing more" thing from Toriyama doesn't really hold up to the countless times he's done things for others with no personal gain of his own (I'll list them off later). I respect Toriyama a lot but damn does he have some dumbass shit to say sometimes.
I won't pretend to know more than the creator of the damn series but we know it's a bad habit of Toriyama; to muster up something 30 years after the end of Dragonballs serialization, something as central as Gokus disposition, even if everything in the manga or past statements from Toriyama himself contradict it to try and add more depth to the story when all it does is dumb it down, and I think it's clear that DBS Goku is not the same person as DB and DBZ Goku not even comparing him to the overly righteous Funimation version. I know Toriyama never intended for Goku to be a righteous, moral good type from the beginning, but he was never a muscle-head looking for some schmucks to fight and nothing more. He was a flawed hero, no Superman but still a very kind, caring and gentle person that loves the thrill of the fight. From here I'll only discuss how pre-DBS Goku is not what Toriyama describes him as.
Goku is not selfish, he just doesn't think things through. Goku can do things for his own gain, I'm not denying that, but even then it's never malicious, and it only ever is temporarily after he goes Super Saiyan, the transformation that essentially programs you to get violent, for the first time yet his compassionate nature wins out in the end when he sees Frieza begging. And before you say it he didn't spare him to fight him again; that was Vegeta and Piccolo who I'll get to in a moment. He let Frieza power up when he was on his SSJ violent streak because he wanted to humiliate him at his maximum power and avenge Krillin, knowing that living with the knowledge that he was beaten by someone, a Saiyan nonetheless, is the worse thing that could happen to Frieza, and Goku admitted to that outright. He then backs out of the fight after dominating because he had achieved his goal of humiliating Frieza, basically tells him to fuck off and never show his face to him again then promptly leaves.
Of course Frieza does his disk shenanigans, gets cut in half and begs for his life. Goku didn't want to give him energy at first because he knew Frieza had killed countless people that were begging the same way he was now, but his compassionate nature gave in and he essentially saved the life of the person he hated the most, just out of the kindness of his heart. Any rational person would recognize that Frieza will never change; and Goku realizes this when Frieza attacks him again, then he kills him reluctantly; Goku still doesn't think things through even in his most heroic of moments, just the same way as he does in his seemingly selfish ones and it only ever dawns on him that he's being too trustworthy after like the seventh time his trust was broken. Funimation played up his "heroicness" like crazy, but he was still a hero through and through, and this was directly from the manga.
All the others he spares he spares because of this bad decision making, his love for fighting and, most importantly, his confidence in his abilities; He didn't want Piccolo to die from his wounds so Kami won't die, but he also wants to have a sparring partner so he gives him a senzu. Goku isn't worried at all because he has full confidence in his abilities, so if Piccolo tries anything, he knows he'll beat him "As strong as you become Piccolo.... I'll always be one step ahead of you". Same exact thing with Vegeta "Next time I'll beat him.... I know it's not logical but I beg of you" (talking to Krillin); if he ever comes back, Goku is confident he will defeat him so no one will get hurt and he'll have another great fight; win-win. Of course the risks of sparing a tyrant killer are a lot more complex than that, but complex is not what Goku is; he is good and pure hearted, battle crazy and simple minded; practical and takes everything at face value. That's been the entire crutch of his character since his introduction.
This would make Goku naive and irrational but never a bad or uncaring person, because he doesn't do anything with malicious intent unless he's forced to or when defending himself and others; and any harm done by him to others is purely unintentional. That is what being pure of heart means and is his most prominent characteristic, he wouldn't be pure of heart if he acknowledged the fact that innocents could get hurt and just didn't bother for the sake of fighting.
Goku might not be as blatantly heroic as Gohan for example, as in he wouldn't fly around looking for bad guys to defeat even though he's more than capable; because he doesn't see himself as a savior, he sees himself as a fighter; it's why Goku refuses Kamis offer to become the guardian of the Earth, an offer that any savior would accept, but he doesn't view himself that way; he's no Superman. Does that make him a bad person? Not at all, if anything that makes him too good; he essentially sticks his neck out for anyone in need when he doesn't have to and is more than ready to risk his life or actually sacrifice it for the ones he's protecting as he's done many times before. The thing is though, in the times when Goku thinks irrationally and makes bad decisions, when he realizes he's being a dumbass, he immediately rethinks everything, gets serious and fixes his mess, with the most prominent example being his sacrifice for Gohan and the world after realizing that his son is not a fighter which was a character changing moment for the usually static Goku.
All his "selfish" moments go back to this irrationality, even giving Cell the senzu bean; Gohan is the only one who can beat Cell if he gets angry, Cell has to be strong to push him to the limit, I'll give him a senzu, and there's Gokus thought process. He doesn't realize the tons of things he presupposes or miscalculates including Gohans dislike for fighting. He was doing it to prepare Gohan for future threats and because he knew he was the only one who could beat Cell, he just doesn't understand that not everyone loves fighting like he does (It's good to remember that he's only ever had friends who were or still are fighters or adventurers, so he immediately assumed Gohan was the same because he was fighting with them since the beginning he even told Piccolo this directly).
It’s only when Piccolo, who is both wiser and far more logical than Goku, breaks it to him that he realizes what he's doing. If Goku was so uncaring he would've left Gohan to his own devices for the "fair fight" but he doesn't, he asks Krillin for a senzu and was gonna charge in to help even if that meant losing the last hope for Cell's defeat, Gohan ascending, just because he didn't want his son to think he was leaving him to die. Of course the Cell Jrs stopped him from doing so but that doesn't undermine that he was about to risk the sole thing that could beat Cell for Gohan. His plan worked out in the end which only makes Goku more deserving of the title of hero if anything.
Him staying in the afterlife is also widely seen as a selfish moment, when it's stated directly that him staying only brings more danger to the Earth, which is a fair and true point. Some people say that he's just lying and that all he wants is to fight the strong guys in Otherworld because he tells the guys on Earth to not be sad and that there's plenty of fighters in Otherworld for him to fight. For one that's some conspiracy theory level stuff; Goku said why he was doing it, the narrator said why he was doing it and everyone understood why he was doing it; he doesn't want more villains to endanger Earth, so why shouldn't we believe what Goku was saying when he's a character that has literally never lied up to that point after appearing in like 400 manga chapters and has clear and explained reasons why he won't come back?
Secondly, the comment about him having other fighters in Otherworld was just a comforting phrase for the others, a "Don't worry about me" basically and nothing more, I don't see why that could be an ulterior motive for him to leave everything he cares for behind when, thirdly, his son is literally the strongest being in the universe at that point in canon; if he wanted to go where the strongest fighters where, there isn't any place better than Earth and there were no two doubts about it (at the time of course). If we're gonna go with the argument that Goku just wants to go where the strongest fighters are, then him leaving is an even bigger sacrifice than explained in the manga if anything. Goku has stated that training future generations was both to protect Earth and fight them when they're fully realized, so after Gohan fully realizes his potential Goku leaves for the safety of the Earth and his loved ones when there was no better sparring partner than his own son, yet people still see it as a selfish moment.
Another point of contention is "Why didn't Goku contact his friends and family when he was in Otherworld during the 7 years of peace?" Well if you want the meta answer, it's that Toriyama was planning on getting Goku out for good and leaving everything else to Gohan so he essentially needed to wipe his presence completely from the story (he didn't even show up in the original Buu saga opening). For a real answer though, It is heavily implied that contact between the normal world and Otherworld is only reserved for extreme situations and is not something you do or should do regularly at all; you don't see King Kai calling Goku, or anyone for that matter, except in dire moments where the universe was at stake, which it was for all of Z, except for the 7 years of peace.
Goku wanting to fight the androids rather than destroying them before they show up also falls in line with his poor decisions. Plus every fighter there wanted a shot at the androids because they all enjoyed fighting. The thing is when Gero started blowing up buildings with his eye lasers Goku was shocked and really mad. Goku.... what did you think was gonna happen? Did he really just let monster androids loose without thinking of the possibility that they might harm others? YES.
Not evil, but naive and illogical. People frame this and a lot of his other infamous "selfish" moments as him knowing and acknowledging that others will be harmed but just not minding it because he'll get a good fight out of it which is more than a little OOC for someone like Goku. He's a guy that gets mad at the thought of innocents getting harmed, seen when he got angry when he heard the army was trying to attack Cell through the radio which pushed him to go find another Namekian so he can revive them with new Dragonballs, and that's just one example, there are still a ton more that I will list at the end of the post. I think the best way to describe these selfish moments as being reckless but still well meaning. Sure he gets to fight others but if he sees others getting harmed he draws the line and gets serious. A reckless hero is still a hero nonetheless.
The fact that Toriyama thinks Goku fights others just for the fight and nothing else is really baffling to me. Sure Goku does do that sometimes but it's far from the only reason he fights, seen with Frieza, Tambourine, King Piccolo, The RR Army, Baba's minions hell even Cell and Buu; Fighting Cell was to show Gohan Cell's fighting style and to prove to him that he can't rely on his dad because he was fighting at full power and still couldn't beat Cell (This isn't head-canon by the way, he said it in the manga); And Buu he only fought him to buy time and didn't further engage, although he wanted to, because he wanted to train the future generations to start protecting Earth. If he was just "fight fight food" guy he would've fought him all out right then and there.
The "Piccolo cares more for Gohan" stuff we've already kind of debunked, as Goku was either dead to save the world from someone or on his way to help when Gohan was in trouble. Goku and Piccolo's argument when Gohan was getting beat up by Cell was logical not emotional; In terms of caring for Gohan; they both do equally, but in terms of emotional as well as general intelligence, Piccolo easily takes the win. As soon as Goku realizes, he's just as taken aback and prepares to charge in. We can all agree that Goku cares a lot for his sons; when he was absent he was either training to save the world or protecting it from other threats and whenever he is around he's always caring and good to them but stern and fatherly when shit hit the fan. Vegeta learns to be like this in like the third act of the Buu saga so it's weird that people consider him a good father when he was essentially still a villain/anti-villain for the first 8 years of his kids life and knowingly put Bulma and Trunks in danger in the Cell arc unlike Goku whose presence in Earth just attracted dangers because of his achievements.
Goku being a bad father is debatable; I'm on the side that he is a good father, considering what he was going through and the sacrifices he made for his sons and family, but I won't deny that he does things that are negative to his family unintentionally, even in those cases though, it was always for a greater good; saving the Earth level of greater good. The fact that he enjoys the process that is used to protect the Earth doesn't undermine the reason why he does it, and he gives up fighting for the sake of others many times before, just like he did when he stayed in Otherworld or when he backed down against Cell and Buu when he always tries to see a fight through to the end. Plus he has so many tender moments with his kids and always gets along with them to the point where its hard to call him bad, just very very busy in some really important stuff: Training with Gohan in the world of the Kais, meeting Goten, saying goodbye to Goten, the hug he shares with Gohan after he unleashes his potential, his interactions with Pan, his time with Gohan in the time chamber, the days before the Cell Games and so on.
When Toriyama says Goku views his family as "companions" while Vegeta doesn't, he means Goku values their individuality while Vegeta values their unity. A good example is when Goten and Trunks fight in the tournament; When Goten cheats, Vegeta gets mad at Goku saying his son is fighting unfairly, but Goku goes don't look at me this was Goten's doing. For Vegeta, when Goten cheats, the whole Son family cheats, while for Goku every member of his family is his own individual. They're two very different yet completely valid methods of parenting, and both Goku and Vegeta sometimes take their parenting methods to their extremes, to the point where Vegeta would be angry at Trunks for losing a fight and taking it as a hit to his personal pride while Goku would sometimes seem not as attached as he should be, however both of them usually pull through and act as good parents to their children in the end.
Gokus strength as a character are also his flaws and it's sad to see that many portrayals of him flanderize one side of him and forget the other; Back in the 90's people thought he was Superman, now people think he's evil which are both incorrect. I'll list off some moments that show Goku has always been a good person:

  1. We already talked at length about this but, sparing Frieza, one of his kindest acts
  2. Burying Vegeta after his death
  3. Just the fact that he achieved SSJ because of Krillins death shows how much he cares. SSJ was unachievable back then and Goku was never this angry
  4. Except for that earlier time where he was in a blind rage after Krillins first death and almost got himself killed
  5. Saving Eighter from the Red Ribbon Army
  6. Stopping Kami from killing himself and Piccolo
  7. Demolishing a military base for Snow after she saves him from freezing
  8. Giving up the four star ball (which meant the world to him by the way) that he'd spent months searching for to revive Upas father
  9. Rescuing Launch (not knowing of her double life)
  10. Sacrificing himself for Gohan against Radditz. As soon as he saw Radditz readying to kill Gohan he jumped him (with broken ribs by the way) then held him in place long enough for Piccolo to charge. If that wasn't painful enough he still got Piccolo's attack busting through his chest seconds after. You know that shit hurt, all for Gohan though
  11. Beating the entirety of the Red Ribbon Army and Baba's minions for Upa
  12. As we mentioned, his sacrifice against Cell. Another one of his most noble moments
  13. Of course how angry he got when he was facing off against Nappa
  14. Stopping Oolong from kidnapping girls
  15. I won't be able to list how many times he randomly helped people in Dragonball but yeah a lot more of that
  16. Sharing his knowledge of The Hyperbolic Time Chamber with Vegeta and Trunks
  17. Urging Gohan to kill Cell after he transformed. Goku used to take things seriously a lot more in Z
  18. Him meeting Goten when first arriving and his moment with him when going back to Otherworld which is just as sweet
  19. Goku urging Vegeta to fuse. He wasn't there for a one on one, he wanted to kill Buu
  20. Sparing the entirety of the Ginyu Force
  21. "I will not let you destroy my world!" No explanation needed. You all know how good that scene was. (When I mention anything in BoG, I mean the movie rendition not the Super one. It is still a DBZ movie after all and Gokus character was still somewhat intact)
  22. Goku remembering his family and friends was what made him re-unlock SSG against Beerus
  23. Goku getting really mad after hearing about Cell killing soldiers
  24. Goku getting really mad after Majin Vegeta kills the spectators to the point of threatening Supreme Kai if he gets in his way of stopping him. That's how much he cares for the people on Earth
  25. Goku egging Krillin on when fighting the monks from his temple
  26. Goku offering Nam a piece of chicken after noticing how hungry he was
  27. Super also has some moments of the kind hearted Goku that kinda got lost through a lot of its seasons: mainly going ballistic on Black for killing Chichi and Goten in another timeline and crying tears of joy after reviving Master Roshi. Also his moments with Pan
  28. Refusing Whis' offer to become a god of destruction
  29. The time he spent with Gohan and Chichi after exiting the time chamber
  30. He still is a strong believer that people can change at heart. It's part of why he spares his enemies because he trusts their rivalry would force them to change. While not the only motive it still is very prominent to his character
And that's just off of the top of my head. I know there's tons more than this. Goku, by being a very simple minded and humble character, has so much layers to him that it's understandable why many would wrongly characterize him, but no matter how funny it might be to think about it, Goku is not a bad guy, at least to me. He's a flawed hero, but a hero is still a hero and he's done more than his fair share to prove his caring and gentle nature. Funimation overplayed his cheesy heroic traits, but now Super is undermining it extensively and overplaying his love for battle. I'll now go lament the hour that I lost writing this post that will drown in New. Pray for me
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2020.01.26 18:39 GlaucioMao What if Roshi Wished For His Youth Back Part 7

Part 1: https://www.reddit.com/MasakoX/comments/elvypv/what_if_roshi_wished_for_his_youth_back/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
Part 2: https://www.reddit.com/MasakoX/comments/emf878/what_if_roshi_wished_for_his_youth_back_pt_2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
Part 3: https://www.reddit.com/MasakoX/comments/emyznk/what_if_roshi_wished_for_his_youth_back_pt_3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
Part 4: https://www.reddit.com/MasakoX/comments/eopkb2/what_if_roshi_wished_his_youth_back_part_4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
Part 5: https://www.reddit.com/MasakoX/comments/ep65i2/what_if_roshi_wished_for_his_youth_back_part_5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
Part 6: https://www.reddit.com/MasakoX/comments/ete9mb/what_if_roshi_wished_for_his_youth_back_pt_6/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Future Timeline.
Back in the gravity chamber a super Saiyan Goku trains in his morning routine. The familiar sounds of rapid air friction gets to be heard inside the house by Chichi who is preparing lots of food for his husband. While Gohan is at his room studying.
Suddenly Goku falls on the ground and Gohan rushes emergency stopping the chamber. Chichi grabs Goku out and ask for help. Since they moved to West city. Bulma Just rushed quickly to their part of town and takes a capsule containing a healing chamber, putting Goku there for a while. This would help her to gain some time.
Bulma and briefs rushes against time trying to save Goku. Nappa gave him Senzu beans but it didn't helped neither. The healing tanks just delays the inevitable and Bulma, even though she found the culprit, an unknown heart virus, can't do much to save his friend. After a long time fighting the illness. Goku dies and the Z Fighters lose their best friend.
Few months later in a secluded area in a mountain range. A scared doctor Gero looks at a monstrosity acting more like a beast than any other thing breaking the glass and filling the lab with a watery goo. The green beast looks like a humanoid bug, but has fangs, extra sets of eyes, horns and a long tail.
The creature just displays a unearthly power. Greater than anything they ever imagined. Gero's eyes burst due to the power being too great for his power sensor. And the creature grabs Gero and tells.
I am perfection.
The creature dismantles the doctor and blasts off from the lab.
Feeling the power. Other Fighters join and they are quickly brutalized and killed by the monster. He is immensely powerful. All squashed like bugs.
Holding their last breath piccolo told everyone else to flee. Getting a rice cooker and a seal.
Maaaaaaafuuuuuuuuba.
He used against cell. He was caught by the attack, grabbed and before he was inside. He held his breath… the time suddenly stopped and he eye beamed the rice cooker. Weakened and stunned cell sees piccolo falling dead while the others escape.
Bulma gets to Vegeta, who barely survived. Roshi, Nappa, Vegeta. They are the only ones left. And they are so outclassed that they wouldn't be strong enough for them even with a decade more of training.
Cell starts rampaging on earth looking for worthy adversaries, killing innocent people through and through. Bulma gives a capsule to the remaining Fighters and tell them. That they are escaping. They will go again to namek. But take many people of earth as refugees.
Vegeta is taking people in when he saves a girl rushing and traumatized. Her father, the world champion was squashed by the monster before her very eyes. She goes inside the vessel being comforted by Chichi and Gohan. Who rapidly creates a bond due to both being children of a world martial arts champion and they develop a friendship.
They manage to fill four ships and rushes away from earth. Cell in frustration later, finding out there's no one worthy the challenge, destroys the planet with a supernova. And goes wandering through the cosmos.
On namek several ships full of humans are incoming. The namekians role are now on reverse. They are the ones taking on humans now.
They become aware of the threat and now tries to make a plan for them to defeat the abomination. The fighters manage to take a long time on the planet honing the skills and Vegeta, alongside Nappa ammended their friendship and also discovered super saiyan 2.
Unfortunately, it was still not enough to save them all.
Not so long later, cell appears on the planet and starts rampaging. The fighters get cell a better run for his money, but he was still toying with them. Cell ends up killing several namekians and humans due to the collateral damage and a death beam pierces Chichi's chest.
Gohan, speechless. Never exposed to a world of fighting. A builder, a maker, never a warrior a day in his life. Felt untamed, uncheck, unruled power.
His eyes became non existent, power soaring through his body, a sudden urge of ki so intense that he rapidly outclassed the saiyans. His hair turns golden, his eyes yellow, a greenish die all over it. Gohan rushes to cell, beating him up badly, his was rage incarnated.
The other fighters are scared, cell is too. Then Gohan blasts an energy from his body. Cell is consumed by it, apparently defeated, Gohan collapses turning back to normal and caught by Roshi. He goes inside the ship.
Roshi starts feeling cells ki growing back slowly. He somehow survived the monstrous strike he got. Roshi tells that they and the namekians should flee now. And the 4 capitals flees and spreads.
Cell is destroying civilisations. And earth is getting a big fleet to control. They are now basically formed with the earthlings and the remainders of Frieza Force and the Galactic Patrol, there's no line between criminals and the justice when a universe destroyers is at large.
Roshi starts training Gohan to control his power. Alongside of him some kids with martial arts talent join them. Videl is with them as well learning the ways of turtle school. Vegeta is also training Gohan to become a super saiyan, and trying to figure it out what happened to Gohan on namek. How he outbursts more power than cell.
Trying to disappear Vegeta, Roshi, Gohan and Videl goes to yardrat. In hopes that they manage to learn techniques. And then starts their training with elder pibara.
Few years later cell appears on another planet. Sensing few strong kis in a former Frieza Force planet.
Roshi is caught by Cell. And they briefly fight. But roshi could only manage to stall. The others rush and flee. As the planet gets engulfed in flames. The survivors flee to another planet.
Gohan goes to his room, there a gift from Roshi is on his bad. The power pole. Gohan bursts into tears.
From the following years it's all about training and for Gohan, lots of study. He wanted to do something because even if they defeat cell, they already lost way too much. Vegeta trained Trunks to become a strong warrior.
Gohan is training and reaching a lot. In a room with different aliens and Gohan and Bulma, joining efforts to undo the timeline.
They crack the code, where to change the past for good. And all of them manages to build a time machine.
Trunks is asked to go. Gohan has a crew to defend. Videl is pregnant and Vegeta still is the most knowledgeable about space. Nappa just got too old. There's only Trunks.
As a light of hope blasts of back to the past. Gohan senses Cell.
The two lands on a planet and Gohan goes wearing a different set of clothes. Not his usual space suit, but an old gi, which belonged to his father.
I kinda knew that our fate would led us here. - Gohan assumes a stance.
There will be no miracle power this time.
Gohan sees the craft going away.
Maybe
Gohan charges up super saiyan, super saiyan 2, then he looks to the sky. A full moon rises in the sky. Gohan is starting to be fed by this light, but contains the transformation, with yellow eyes filled with rage.
They trade blows and are evenly matched, hit after hit. But Gohan is starting to lose steam as the day is starting to arise.
Well, it was fun monkey boy. I'll give it to you. But you can't defeat me. I am power incarnated, I am perfection.
Well Mr. Perfection. I never meant to defeat you. Just stalled. I calculated this scenario for my whole life. Here the timeline changed is exactly the one I meant and here is time. No one of us will be able to outpace it.
The light floods everyone. The future timeline is no more, peace has been restored in the past. While trunks time machine disappears, a smile and tear goes on trunks face.
You're way too smart Gohan. Thank you.
And future Trunks is stranded in the past.
Piccolo comes closer.
Well, if you go around the saiyans, you might tell something you shouldn't.
But I might have some use for a strong training partner.
Let's go then.
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2019.10.06 12:09 Stenv2 What If Roshi wished for youth Part 2.

Before we begin, I did have some debate on what I might add for this part going forward. For instance, there is this one technique I really like from another What If. But I decided to not use that technique on the principle of it not being my own, and it being someone else's creation. Plus it just wouldn't be right to use someone else's creation like that.
In the last part, we came to a crossroads. Who would Goku take with him to King Kai's planet? Now you might think it would be Roshi because isn't Roshi all experienced? Well yes. But he wouldn't due to his stance that yeah it's up to the next-gen, that doesn't mean he won't do what he can. But Goku has to lead the charge.
It can't be Raditz since they don't trust him enough yet. Gohan is also out for the debate since ChiChi isn't going to let her son go off into the afterlife, it already took everything to convince her to let him train with the other z warriors. So then who will go with Goku?
Well, there is only one other option. It's Kriller Time! That's right Krillin will be headed with Goku. I know what you're thinking. But why Krillin? He isn't as strong as Tien or Yamcha! He isn't even a saiyan. Thing is back in Dragon Ball for a time before Goku got some huge gains on him, he was surprisingly equal and talented on the same level as Goku.
And while he was being outclassed by the saiyans in the namek saga, he still got surprisingly strong. So yeah, Krillin and Goku head off to King Kai's planet to train and learn the kaio-ken and spirit bomb. Thanks to the gravity being ten times greater Krillin does make great gains, and the Kaio Ken is rather handy. The only real downside is, of course, he won't make the same gains as Goku since Zenkai boosts and all that.
Meanwhile back on Earth, Roshi knows that their training isn't going to be enough. So he asks Kami if there is any other way to get stronger. And Kami reluctantly tells them of the room of spirit and time. Now you might be thinking, why would Kami tell Roshi? Well sure Roshi isn't the strongest, but he has one thing that can make use of the room. And that is his superior martial arts experience, which gives him the fortitude to withstand the room even at this early stage.
But it's not like they can use the room right away, first, he needs to test it out. So Roshi and Raditz go in first. Why Raditz? Because Roshi wants to truly get to know the brother of Goku. And during their year in the chamber, Raditz does reveal a little more of himself to Roshi. Enough to let the wise master know that Raditz isn't all that bad. And Raditz learns the Kamehameha from Roshi, and Roshi learns how to effectively train in the room. Coming out stronger than when he entered after a full day.
But he knows the others aren't yet ready, at least not yet. So he and Kami and Popo do their best to train the z warriors up to a decent enough state to benefit from the room of spirit and time. And just before the saiyans arrive early, everyone manages to get in a turn in the room, with Roshi and Raditz going in a final time.
And now the Saiyans have arrived. And I am not really all that good with the calculations of the number, but suffice to say. The Z Warriors are stronger than their canon counterparts. With Roshi and Raditz and Piccolo being the top three. Yes, Gohan has great potential but given how he wasn't kidnapped in this timeline. Yeah, Chi Chi is very much against him really training, since there are other fighters that could be there instead of her son.
Though he does manage to sneak out and join the fight being fourth in place in terms of power. Roshi and Raditz are roughly somewhat stronger than Nappa, though still nowhere close to Vegeta's level. So hooray! Yamcha gets to live! Hell even Chiatzo doesn't die, nor Tien. It's still a tough brawl with Nappa mind you and a spectacle to behold. But they just barely manage to beat down the brute, and then Vegeta finishes him off much to their horror.
And Vegeta shows the sheer gap in their power, for even though they got worthwhile training. It's still not enough, and he goes through them like tissue paper. And Piccolo dies, so they will have to go to Namek eventually. Now did Gohan and Piccolo bond here? Well not at first, but they did spend a year in the time room. So they did get some bonding eventually. Though probably not to the same extent as canon.
And just when all hope is seemingly lost, Goku and Krillin show up. Both immensely powerful, with Goku being slightly stronger than canon since sure Krillin isn't a saiyan, but having a sparring partner with him on King Kai's planet increased his gains slightly more than canon.
So the fighting happens between Goku and Vegeta. With Goku demanding one on one. So we still get the iconic beam struggle. Though eventually Krillin does step in along with the others, and Vegeta is still spared. And afterward, thanks to Raditz still being around he is able to help Bulma figure out saiyan technology somewhat easier. He may not be a genius but he knows how to operate them.
And from there well they have to go get new balls. But that's where we will be leaving things for now. Who will go to Namek? Will Krillin continue to stay relevant? Find out next time!
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2019.07.31 12:21 AlieCat88 What If :Goku Married Arale (King Piccolo Saga) COMPLETE!

What If :Goku Married Arale (King Piccolo Saga) COMPLETE!

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LAST TIME:
Arale after arguing with her dad over her unaging body. She decides to use the dragon balls to get a new body. Along the way she meets Dr. Gero. Who tricks her into letting him upgrade her in a bid to use her to kill Goku! Instead she wound up becoming Goku's Sparing partner and 1 of his close friends. We Join our heroes at the World Marshal Arts Tournament
Arale doesn't enter as at this time fighting is only a special game she plays with Goku. I see him winning the tournament but Goku gives the Money to Tien. Krillin still goes back and dies, sending a hungry though less tired Goku rushing after Tambourine. This puts the minion a bit more on the back foot but with some lucky tail grabs he still K.O.s Goku. When Roshi wishes they could worn Goku, Arale offers to go tell him, uses her tremendous speed to rush to his aid. She finds him that next morning and gets distracted trying to help him find food. This of coerce leads to Yajirobe and the 1 star ball.
Things go mostly the same up until just before the first fight with Piccolo. Arale remember to tell Goku about who Piccolo is which freaks out Yajirobe. Before be gets far the Demon King arrives. I can see Goku still hurting over Krillin, to tell Arale to let him handle it alone. I think form gauging King Piccolos efforts, he would still win 1 on 1. Arale sees this and tries to help. The problem is, her only formal training is only a year sparing with Goku. Wile stronger, she is less skilled. Piccolo could use that to cause them to accidentally beet each other up, resulting in him winning and leaving them injured. possibly Arale worse than Goku if she got hit with the Kama-hama-ha. This lets Piccolo make his wish and gets Yajirobe, Goku and Arale over to Korin's tower.
With her body being part human, a Senzu bean heals her and she Joins Goku and Yajirobe in there quest for the Ultra Divine Water. After Korin gifts Goku and Arale each there own Flying Nimbus. The pair rush to Kings Castle. On the way Goku hears Chichi and Ox King being attacked by Soldiers enslaved by Piccolo. Arale offers to see to his Friends will he goes ahead. Arale makes quick work of them. Grateful but confused Chichi asks who the girl is. Arale introduces herself and mentions shes Goku's friend. Chichi dose not take this lightly and probes her with questions. She only gets more frustrated as Arale talks of all the time they spend together. She hadn't seen him in over 2 years. Arale disappointedly mention that she wasn't going to fight Piccolo. Chichi gets a sly idea.
She tells Arale that if she was going to be so bored, why don't the go help people evacuate out of West City. Chichi want to prove herself against this home wrecker. Arale thinks this sounds fun and they both head to West City. as they save stragglers Chichi keeps count and Arale, thinking its a game starts saving people left and right using her strength and speed. Chichi is out matched but this lights a fire in her similar to that of Vegeta in Z. Arale was now Chichis rival and she will do everything in her power to beet her and become Stronger.
Once word come in about Piccolos defeat, Arale and Chichi go to see Goku but just miss him. So now they join the rest in Kame House Wile Goku goes off to meet Kami.
Discussion:
So what do u all think? Did Arale drink ether sacred or ultra divine water wile on the lookout? Drop a comment and lets talk. I'll be back with the end of Dragon ball before moving on to Z.
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2019.07.28 19:32 SSJShinichiKudo what if all of Goku's family survived? Part One: Dragonball. (warning long)

essentially this posits that somehow Bardock Gine and raditz escaped Freeza's blast that destroyed vegeta, alongside kakarot. Gine would get in the pod with kakarot willingly instead of on accident while bardock fires out a powerball over in the atmosphere as a distraction by turning any saiyans who would stare to become oozaru, providing freeza some amusement while also having powers above bardock shown up on their scouters. Bardock calls raditz just before he destroys his scouter and tells him to get to the designated coordinates where the 4 will group up, make it look like an accident and that you've been marooned or else freeza will be suspicious. and make sure you disable all communication features on your scouter.
when we get too gohans house there are 3 attack balls, gine and kakarot, raditzs and bardocks, gine and oku land a few hours before anyone else, then bardock then raditz almost a day later. they are invited to stay at gohan place gine and kakarot go and stay and when bardock arrives Gine pleads for them too stay, then when raditz arrives they set out what they will do for the next decade or so. they will train near non stop, gohan is also willing to help as he knows some martial arts. Bardock agrees to it and is willing to get any help he can get, saiyan pride be damned.
Gohan is not killed of course as the saiyans know what precautions to take, Kakarot is raised kind, as is raditz, bardock is somewhat objectionable to this but his (partner, wife, mate?) doesn't want to see their children act like every other brutish saiyan, it was partially what got their race into this situation in the first place.
Bulma arrives and runs into both bardock and goku as they went to get food, bardock smirks after seeing the first piece of outsider tech in years and asks where shes going and what shes al the way out in the mountains for. Bulma explains a little about the balls before she is lead towards gohan's house to talk after all the family is gathered to chat it turns out that bardock is very interested in these balls now, they could help him defeat freeza although he doesn't know exactly what too wish for as if he said bring back planet vegeta and it's people he knows freeza would know of it instantly. as such bardock is fine with giving up a wish for now, he presumes the balls have to be able to come back after a wish is made otherwise they wouldn't have a legend about them granting wishes, he sends kakarot and raditz too go with bulma, they need to learn about the world best way to do that is with experience. gohan also gives kakarot his power pole just as an added form of protection although it isn't like he would need it. Bulma does talk too them about their tails and tech that they have and asks if she could study it after her adventure is over.
since bulma doesn't want to be picked up and manhandled they are going to have to go on foot or by car. the bear thief and dino are both taken out in one punch that doesn't even connect from raditz (I have no time for games), they just hit the air hard enough to either wound them heavily or kill. turtle is taken to roshis far faster, kakarot is just given the ball instead of the nimbus cuz he can fly, next up was oolnog which also goes by fairly quickly, they aren't killed due to the fact that he is so weak, yamcha has to fight kakarot still and just outright loses the best he could get was a small scratch when he used wolf fang fist, it kind of breaks him, raditz like him though, he looks saiyan as well, long black hair, black eyes, even has the right kind of name. as such he tells the bandit to come along, its not like he would be the only person they just picked up, as he points too oolong. yamcha freezes when he sees bulma and tries to run but raditz holds him down and tries to keep him calm wondering why he would be afraid of women. eventually they get going with raditz and yamcha sitting near each other, yamcha himself squirming, monster carrot is taken to the moon as well when raditz has a double sunday prepared that he says could blow carrot to smithereens if needed.
ox king goes well, Roshi actually has the bansho fan due to gohan being alive and visiting every now and then keeping roshi for misusing it. so chi chi's castle is saved from being destroyed, roshi came along just to make sure they didnt use the fan too much and to keep up with Kakarot, he is gohan's pupil after all so roshi wants to see more of him. Yamcha in in awe of the master and nerds out over him which bulma finds cute before yamcha sees her giggling and he runs away in fear causing roshi to chuckle. eventually the pilaf castle incident occurs or more like doesn't occur. pilafs castle is destroyed by raditz before even going in. pilaf shu and mai escape just in the nick of time but lose their dragonball.
at this point they have all the balls but no idea what too wish for, yamcha and bulma seemed to have gotten interested in each other, bardock expressly forbade bringing back planet vegeta, and raditz is wary of bringing prince vegeta and nappa too earth as well in fear of bringing freeza's wrath. raditz wishes for freeza to die but shenron cant do that either, eventually yamcha suggests something to boost the power of the fighters instead if freeza is so powerful. raditz believes that would be the best course of action then. he then asks how to word it, he doesnt want this backfiring, eventually bulma says that anyone who is an ally should have their power unlocked or something to that effect, it could even help people who aren't necessarily fighters.
the wish is made, what it does is unlock a large portion of their allies potential, like with guru or elder kai although not getting mystic form. bardock feels himself overcome with a flush of power and believes that raditz, kakarot and the others made a good wish. bulma is slightly stronger and her mind is a flush with ideas much like how dende gets healing bulma receives a mental boost. yamcha meanwhile gets a boost that gets him to just about as powerfull as goku was in their first fight and kakarot get one too. roshi and chichi also get one, raditz and gine and gohan and puar and oolong too. it's a very far reaching wish.
the group head in a few different directions, kakarot decides to go to roshi's for a bit, raditz gets most of the others to gohan's to talk with his father, especially bulma who was already planning to go back for the tech they had, puar and oolong will go to capsule corp as they will meet with the group when they get back there.
roshi still wants a hot chick so kakarot and krillin go off to get launch, meanwhile raditz and the others are at gohan's place, bardock congratulates the group on their success as he can feel his power growing even now, the full effect of the wish still takes a little while much like with guru's potential unlock in canon. he wants raditz to scour the planet for warriors that could help their cause, yamcha says that wouldn't be necessary, they just need to go too the world martial arts tournament, alot of the worlds champions and other strong fighters go there to test their mettle. bardock is impressed that a weak race like humans would still find glory in combat, guess they aren't too different from saiyans. Bardock then says that if that's the cause then they should train as hard as possible for the tournament, while everyone there may be weak in comparison it doesn't mean none could be allied with.
bulma takes a few of the saiyan pods and raditz old scouter too capsule corp, to work on with her father, who also benefited from the wish some amount (the wish wont expand out infinitely only to those who are friends of the group that was present (puar, oolong, yamcha, kakarot, raditz and bulma)
they get straight on to working on the tech and quickly work out the gravity tech that allows the pods too fly and move through space. bulma is so excited about getting too work with alien tech and right away gets on with making gravity rooms and anti gravity belts to help with carrying things that are not capsuled, not to mention space ships.
yamcha and raditz decide to hang out, raditz was getting a little sick of his brother, it has been just their family in a shack for 10 years or so now, so getting to meet earthlings and get out and about while kakarot is with the old man is a blessing, plus it is interesting how quickly bulma and her father are working. he suggest making some kind of gravity room first which inspires bulma too act, raditz is happy, a wish on the dragonballs and now gravity tech, this will certainly make father proud and be able to take on freeza.
anyway for te next year untill the tournament yamcha and raditz decide to train together, and yamcha asks about vegeta, freeza, and how strong they would need to be, raditz says at least 1 million yamcha doesn't understand until raditz talks about power levels, they want to be at about 1 million before they attack so that even if freeza has an ace in the hole they can attack as ozaru and destroy the tyrant. yamcha vows that he will get as close as he can too the saiyans, he was a bandit and even he knew never too stoop so low as to kill an entire group out of a lust for riches or power. bulma meanwhile is working extremely quickly with her father and those at capsule corp to reverse engineer the tech and use it for their own ends, eventually making a gravity room for her boys as she calls them to spar in, raditz barely feels a difference at 5 x gravity while yamcha is gasping for air just trying to stand. bulma is also interested in the blasts that raditz emits from his palms thinking it is also tech because she doesn't know about ki as roshi never did his kamehameha. raditz explains it away, yamcha saying how it is close to how he uses his wolf fang fist, bulma is certainly intrigued, and asks whether they can teach her, raditz instead asks if bulma could go get his mother for that, he isn't a good teacher and bardock would be too harsh. Kakarot is leaps and bounds of where he was compared to the og manga, and krillin isn't counted as an ally for a little while so he falls behind quite quickly, launch meanwhile is counted as goku thinks shes funny and nice, launch of course notices this cuz she couldn't break brick walls before so she asks Whats going on around here as blond launch. she gets some answers, and thinks it would help with her heists if she could do this shit at will, roshi is weirded out on that front but at this point doesn't care, if this hot blond isn't shooting at him then he is more then willing to train her.
the tournament goes quite differently, raditz decides to sit it out as he knows he would win no matter what if he joined, but he does want to get a good look at the fighters and so joins as a participant only to throw his match when he feels like he has found a few good candidates. bulma meanwhile is there too support her boyfriend as well as use the tournament as a way of trying to think and get her ideas figured out, she works better when doing something. roshi doesn't feel the need to step in as jackie chun as he knows about bardock and as such doesn't need to tell everyone that there will always be someone stronger, as such bulma is in the position that jackie chun would be in.
raditz only sees two candiates monster beast giren and nam but he rules out giren when he notices how much of an ass hole he is, no need having a pompous jackass on the team, it would just piss everyone off. ranfan is too weak and heavily uses sexual trickery, freeza would not be amused, meanwhile bactirian is just really bad smelling, freeza or his men would know when they were coming in a matter of seconds just by scent alone.
kakarot and yamcha win all their matches with ease, krillin doing rather poorly against yamcha due too his training with raditz, and bulma losing because she wasn't aiming to win to begin with, she was at least able to come up with a more efficient fuelling and circuit board design at the very least. nam is talked too by raditz o his way out, even he knows water is free and just tells him to go to a well with a capsule if he needs it, but he also remarks about needing help, nam says that so long as his village is safe and thriving he is willing to lend a hand now and then, raditz assures that he will go to nam instead of the other way around to make sure he can stay as close to his village as he can if that would make him feel better.
the final part of the tournament is yamcha vs kakarot as yamcha was able to beat bulma (giving some pointers here and there and trying to not hurt her because he is kind of a wuss with women still, even when bulma kept saying "JUST HIT ME YOU MORON I CAN TAKE IT") the finale is actually a draw like in canon, as while kakarot trained with roshi, yamcha trained with raditz in a gravity room for a year and was able to make up some of the difference, the rest of the difference was covered by his physical reach and agility even if he was weaker then kakarot overall. The person to get up and declare themselves the winner is kakarot though.
The next arc is the red ribbon arc, it is started when bulma tells everyone that the balls have come back to power, raditz then asking why they don't go get the balls again, they might not need them right away but they could use another adventure, maybe even prevent nams village from ever needing to have to fetch water again. raditz goes to nam to train him in the meanwhile while the others go with kakarot, beat silver and get the first ball, the whole mess with chi chi and ox kings village still occurs, kakarot still promises to marry chi chi but has a slightly better grasp on what marriage is because of gine getting in too reading gossip magazines that gohan had, only because she was interested in earth culture. bulma and yamcha let her know of the whole freeza deal and that they plan on helping the saiyans deal with him when the time comes, chi chi of course volunteers to help.
Kakarot goes to muscle tower alone, while yamcha and bulma decide to investigate the sea cave one, white and his tower are taken down like nothing this time around, metalitron cant even hit kakarot, blue meanwhile is caught unaware over the sea cave, and appears too late too even try to stop the people that went in, (yamcha, bulma, launch and krillin) the pirate robot is taken down via a team effort this time and the cannon isn't used too destroy the machine. by the time blue reaches where the draonball is he has almost missed the group and cant seem to land a hit on either of the males, and the females are beating him somewhat handily.
kakarot meanwhile goes too the land of korin and gets the ball in the volcano as it hadnt exploded yet, beating the rra people who are there, kakarot finds the tower interesting and decides to go up it when he is finished with the dragonball hunt. blue still gets out of the sea cave, and the next ball is that in the forest that violet still takes. the final two balls are as such with red and pilaf. the storming of the base goes very well, red isn't killed by black as he hadn't revealed his wish yet as the army was destroyed much faster and tao has only just been hired and is in the base ready to kill the attackers. blue hadn't made it back too base yet so he is still alive, and is running towards the base to try and save face, Raditz arrives when he is told they are storming the base because he wants too see them try and take him out, and raditz crushes taos legs when he sees the assassin trying to kill his brother. Tao is let go by raditz when he swears he wont do anything ever again before he is booted off the base by raditz. kicking him a few miles away. blue sees this act and pleads for his life,considering he is so weak raditz accepts, on the grounds he helps him take down another military dictator, blue agrees to save his life. kakarot meanwhile has taken black and red unaware and brings them over to yamcha and bulma for help deciding what to do. black tries shooting kakarot with a gun he held in his back pocket but he is killed by raditz after seeing that happen, red gets angry that the group destroyed his only chance at being tall, setting blue into a rage "BEING TALL, I JOINED AN ARMY AND KILLED SO MANY FOR THAT PETTY A DRIVE" red tries to apologise but blue kills him and promises to burn his army fatigues soon after.
all in all the army has been decimated far more so then in canon mainly because raditz decided that after they removed the mech suit from this place under bulma's orders that he would vaporise the base off the face of the earth.
baba's tournament doesn't happen at all like in canon as raditz decides that he should fight just too get it over with. he wins the first four fights handily, before facing the 5th fighter, It's king vegeta, the only being baba knew that was strong enough to challenge raditz as well have some connection too, considering he was their leader after all. essentially king vegeta supports the quest bardock has against Freeza but wants raditz and all the other saiyans to make sure his son is safe, its the last act of fatherhood he can make. before promptly beating raditz into the ground, it was still a fight after all.
the last ball is gotten and they wish for those killed by the red ribbon army (aside from those in the red ribbon army itself) to be brought back. pilaf alone escapes the group, mai and shu are offered money to stay with the group due to their technical ability, considering they made the pilaf machines alongside pilaf himself so they could be good hand workers at capsule corp. mai works near bulma often and trains because of bulmas influence.
the next years are really uneventful, the tournament is won by kakarot again, yamcha being beaten by him in the final round again, raditz had been working with his brother at kame house and met launch, blue had gone too travel the world to find answers, before returning to the group on the first day of the tournament, Bulma, had made more improvements on tech and made more gravity rooms for training, bardock had been working on getting too 100x gravity, gine was just up to 20x raditz up to 50x. king piccolo is of course relaces but his children cant kill any of the dragonball gang, except chioutzu. nam and raditz have their time together as well. King chappa is scouted by raditz as a fighter worthy of helping defeat freeza.
since bardock knows how these kind of tyrants work he decides he will end king piccolo himself, and that the others should feel free to gather the dragonballs of their own accord. he just casually drives his fist through piccolo after telling him he isn't tough at all, he is no freeza. Piccolo jr is still made as no one is a ki sensor and bardock believes that piccolo couldn't do anything with a hole in his chest, piccolo jrs only goal is to become strong enough to defeat bardock, no ruling the world as it would only be a distraction, as such piccolo is far more amicable to begin with then i canon. essentially his goals are like 16 Kill only this one target as a final act of revenge. Pilaf finally concedes and goes over to capsule corp with shu and mai, like everyone else who is an ally: blue, mai, shu, pilaf, nam, tien chioutzu and king chappa have had most of their potential unleashed, this means almost nothing for shu, and for pilaf it allows him more of a programming prowess like bulma had. overall the tech level at capsule corp has accelerated beyond all belief.
the last tournament in the dragonball era is simply a normal tournament with no piccolo jr as he decided to focus on training, kami invited up bardock to talk, and bardock decides to just make kami's lookout public knowledge to all the fighters because they need every advantage they could get if they plan on beating freeza and freeza will inevitably lay his hands on earth one day so this is the also the duty of the guardian of earth to help with.
yamcha wins the last tournament because yamcha decided to make sure that he did the best he could training wise considering he lost the past two tournaments and was so close both times. chi chi and kakarot marry as well as bulma and yamcha, chi chi is far stronger then in canon due too the wish and other peoples influence on her that made her train to help fight the galactic tyrant, essentially this entire part focuses on gathering allies to destroy Freeza, they are making a super human army. raditz and lauch are kind of antsy to get married and as such take it slow and dont get married at the end of dragonball.
power levels at the end of dragonball (be aware, everyone is going to be quite high because A they have extremely powerful gravity rooms B a large amount of unlocked potential C strong sparing partners and D a goal they have set out too achieve that being killing freeza)
Bardock: 150,000 (10,000 at beginning, all of dragonball to train and a gravity room that he had gotten up too 100x gravity in)
Gine: 20,000
Raditz: 40,000
Kakarot: 25,000
Yamcha: 24,000 (only won tournament due too spirit ball)
Krillin:18,000 (didn't train with saiyans much but had a gravity room on kame island)
Tien: 10,000 (late joiner and as such was far behind)
Chioutzu: 3,340 (is usually very weak compared to everyone else physically)
Nam:15,000 (isolated even though he was an early joiner)
Chi-Chi: 16,000 (same as nam except she had her fathers help)
Bulma:16,000 (focused heavily on inventing but had help with training)
Mai:13,330: (somewhat late joiner focused on tech with bulma)
Launch B/Y:12,500/17,000 (same as krillin was mainly isolated and as such had less opportunity to train)
Blue: 19,500 (like mai somewhat late joiner but focused more on training but did delay slightly due to his world travels)
King Chappa: 15,000 (isolated compared to the rest but was heavily focused on training)
Piccolo: 500 (No potential, no gravity room, on his own)
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2018.10.19 21:23 TakoAttako Strawhats romantic pairings

Am bored so decided to do this for fun. All my pairings are the most probable in my opinion, with as little bias as possible, as I don't ship anyone.
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2018.06.24 06:04 derek1st Most Comprehensive Guide of Dragonballs Varying Timelines Ever (Spoilers)

This is gonna get a little long and rambly because there's a lot to cover, but towards the bottom there'll be a complete list of every change in the timeline, followed by a flowchart. Spoilers up through episode 67 of dragonball super. Do not discuss ANYTHING that happens after that as some of us are following the dub only.
Note: I'm using the manga's interpretation where, rather than goku meeting zamasu and provoking his actions, zamasu researches goku on his own. This is because the tv version has a causal loop which is later confirmed by whis (goku black is the reason goku meets zamasu) in the timeline that doesn't exactly follow set rules nor does it translate well to a flow chart. In the manga version, the difference between trunk's zamasu and our zamasu is that goku is alive in our timeline so zamasu hears about him.
Before I begin, I should explain what types of events create a fork and which ones do not.
Every time someone goes from the future to the past and create changes, they create a fork in the timeline. However, when someone returns to their own time, they do not. This is because their return follows directly from their departure. Meaning it is all part of the same flow of events. The person who is returning is not acting on outside influence. Trunks leaves his future, trunks returns. That is the only series of events that could have happened for his future.
However when someone goes to the past, they are impacting the events of the past and create an alternate timeline. For example: goku is supposed to die of a heart virus, but trunk's intervention stops that from happening, thus forking the timeline.
It also appears that when someone RETURNS to the past, it also does not create another branch in space-time because that event follows implicitly from their departure. That is the only way the events were going to take place.
This isn't a "there's a separate timeline for every conceivable outcome" sort of deal. there aren't infinite timelines where infinite outcomes happen. There originally is only ONE way things could transpire, and unless an outside influence creates a change, no fork is created.
This is important because if it weren't the case, there would be a separate timeline for every single time goku and vegeta went from trunk's timeline to the future again.
Also, their trip to the future didn't impact time because their arrival precipitated from trunks seeking them.
To put it simply: one timeline can only influence another timeline one time. Its not explicitly explained that way, but that's how this form of time travel works and the events in the series follow this rule very well. Meaning, events from timeline B for example can created a fork and create timeline C, but characters from timeline B going back and forth between B and C do not create multiple timelines since they derive from the flow of events already started in B. Its a little complicated, dragonball used one of the more complex timeline mechanics yet doesn't explain it very well. It maths out correctly just assume that a timeline can only impact another timeline one time. The only time this gets a bit tricky is with future cell's time travel antics. Since Cell's time travel happens AFTER trunk's time travel, yet cell goes FURTHER into the past, his actions impact trunks INSIDE of that alternate timeline, causing trunks to return to a slightly alternate future. It still works, but may be hard to read in the flowchart
Now lets get into something I had suspected at the time, but was eventually confirmed in episode 67: When beerus hakai'd zamasu, he didn't just erase one timeline, he erased one and created another.
Obviously we know whis's temporal do-over does not create a new timeline as it physically rewinds all of the events and plays them over again.
The last time there is a fork is when whis places trunks and mai into a branch in time where zamasu didn't mess up the world. This created a new fork in time, because an external force is acting on that timeline changing it.
So before the flowchart, here is a complete list of every change to the timeline:
Timeline A: Main Timeline. Goku dies of a heart virus. Androids Kill most of the population.
Timeline B: Trunks arrives in the past, saves goku, kills frieza and king cold.
(trunks returns to timeline A, no fork created, this is the only way trunk's timeline was ever going to go)
(trunks returns to timeline B 3 years later, no new fork is created because this follows directly from the same trunks from the same timeline continuing actions he started previously)
(trunks returns to timeline A and kills the androids. No fork created as this is still an extension of the actions of trunks from timeline A)
Timeline C: Cell kills trunks and goes into the past (just before trunks did). This does a bit of a fork inside a fork as it impacts trunk's actions in the past (future cell is not in the past in timeline B, so cell's presence alters trunks, and therefore alters the future he returns to as well). This is the timeline where gohan fights perfect cell.
Timeline D: New future. As the trunks that returns to the future is different than the one who originally left (he's returning from timeline C rather than B), trunks knows about cell's attempt to kill him and thwarts his effort. This creates a fork in the future making timeline D.
Timeline E: At some point in the future, zamasu kills goku, takes his body, and travels to the alternate timeline D where trunks is located and partners with the zamasu there. This is the timeline where future bulma dies, and all of the gods of destruction and kais are murdered.
Timeline F: Trunks returns to timeline C and asks for help. A new fork is created because this isn't trunks from timeline A anymore, this is technically trunks from timeline E. Black is also from timeline E and therefore does not create yet another timeline when he briefly travels to timeline F.
(trunks, goku, and vegeta travel to trunk's future timeline E, which does not create a new timeline as it follows from trunks seeking them out from said timeline)
(trunks and goku and vegeta return to timeline D, no fork created)
(beerus kills zamasu from timeline F, wiping out that timeline, but creating a new one. It is also implied that beerus believes it wiped him out from all chains of time but goku black is protected by the time ring. So timeline C is presumably gone, and whis infers that timeline F was replaced by yet another timeline. For simplicity's sake, we'll call the one that is wiped out F1. the "new" timeline F2 is the one that replaces it. No "fork" created but time is altered)
(trunks, goku, vegeta, and bulma travel to timeline E. No fork created)
(goku, vegeta, and bulma travel to the new timeline F2 again. No fork created as it is technically the same timeline)
(goku, vegeta, and bulma travel for the last time to timeline E. No fork created) (Zamasu's presence leaks into new timeline F2 during the events of their fight, no fork created as he is again from timeline E)
(goku, bulma, trunks, vegeta, and mai go back to new timeline D. No fork created)
Zeno wipes out timeline E from existence. (although they were still technically able to go find him, so maybe he only erased space, but not time? Unclear.
Whis tells trunks and mai how to return to timeline D right before zamasu destroys everything, and it is implied that whis traps the immortal zamasu in something "more powerful than the mafuba". New timeline is created G. We see gowasu's box has a total of 6 timelines at the end. I'm guessing 1 is timeline C, and 1 is timeline E (much in the way you could still travel to timeline E after it was destroyed, a record of timeline C likely still exists).
So our characters do not exist in the main timeline, all of the events that we see are from the new version of timeline F (with the original timeline F being the one where zamasu kills chichi and goten etc).
Here is how to properly read the flowchart: a solid circle at the end of a timeline simply implies that either nothing noteworthy happens beyond this point or it is destroyed. An open circle of a given color means someone left that timeline and created a fork. the color corresponds to the new fork the created (so go from the orange circle to the new orange fork etc). I've indicated which timelines were destroyed as well. Let me know if anything is unclear.
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2018.05.13 22:46 Kaminoseigi SUPER INT Super Battle Road

After taking a break for few days I present to you the SUPER INT SBR Guide. As always please suggest your teams in the comment section in the end all suggested teams will be added to the guide and uploaded to our very own JP wiki. The next guide remaining is SUPER AGL which I will probably finalise in the next couple days, and then we can start the EXTREME addition of the guides. Now without further ado I present to you the guide:

Super Battle Road Super INT Edition

Summary

  • Total Stages : 1 SUPER3 HARD stage
  • Total Stones: 1 from drops and additional 5 from mission rewards
  • Event gimmick : All bosses in for each battle have type disadvantage against you EXTREME TEQ, also all bosses are extremly strong so they deal large amount of damage and each boss have large amount of HP and DEF

Stages

There is one Stage ,that costs 0 stamina, for this event which have 4 boss phases. Before you enter this event you can either choose the special SA10 friend that is offered to you which in this case is Super Gogeta (note that if you choose him he has no dupe investments) or any other SUPER INT units you find in your friend list. However you can't use any unit that doesn't belong to SUPER INT. You can encounter between 2-5 enemies in each boss which is dependent on RNG. The bosses you can encounter are as followed
Battle Number Bosses
1 Vegeta,Nappa,Raditz / Dr. Gero,Android 19 / Cyborg Taopaipai,Master Shen
2 Ginyu,Recoom,Jheese,Guldo,Burter / 1st Form Freeza,Zarbon,Dodoria / Mecha Freeza,King Cold
3 Turles,Daiz,Amond,Cacao,Raisin / Cooler,Sauzer,Doure,Naise / Android 13,Android 14,Android 15
4 Majin Buu,Babidi / Perfect Cell,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr. / Bojack,Zangya,Kogu,Bido,Bujin
Upon beating this stage you recieve 1 ds as clear reward and an additional 5 ds + 1 Victory's Light Treasure from mission rewards.

General Event Tips

  • You have to bring not only damage dealers but you need to make sure your units have large DEF as well like or at the very least enough defence to not hinder you much.
  • You can bring units that are not only powerful on there own but if enough turns have passed and they are below a certain amount of HP they can heal you to full HP essentialy being a free senzu while also becoming much more powerful like SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta or a unit like chiaotzu who can stun all enemies once per battle the first time he appears on field, or units like who while doing decent damage can tank quite well and heal you to full HP if you fall beneath 10% of your HP, or bring units that can reduce damage recieved while also countering normal attacks like Super Gogeta and SSB Vegeta who are both hard hitters and can reduce the enemy's ATK.
  • Bring in items like icarus,senzu,ghost ushers, princess snake,android 18,dende,future bulma,nurse chichi to help you survive
  • Assuming all charcters attack you the same amount of times during a turn, which means no enemy attacks you more then the others you should first attack the boss allies. The first charcter enemy most of the time have more HP then his teamates but he also deals less damage then them(except for the final stage where he deals slightly more damage) so take out the other teamates before you beat the enemy that is the 1st to the left so you will have less enemies attacking you which will increase your overall chances of winning.However if you see that a certain charcter can attack you multiple times per turn, an amount which is greather than his other teamates, prioritize defeating him 1st. Always defeat first the enemy that attacks the most but in case no one attacks more then once or all the charcters hits you for the same amount of times during the battle what is written before is applied.
  • Keep your dokkan mode gauge at check and manage it properly, make sure that your hardest hitting units are the ones to perform dokkan mode attack so they could deal more damage and heal you up too full HP, and make sure as much as possible that you attack when you want to, near the begining of rotation and not when the enemy is going to be defeated anyway since most of his HP is already gone and there is only one enemy left.

Event Teams

SUPER INT by u/kaminoseigi

Main Rotations: Super Gogeta - LR Piccolo / Super Gogeta- SSB Vegeta
On the 1st rotation I had Super Gogeta who is both a very powerful unit, that could also take hits well and reduce the enemy's attack which improves your survivabily, linked to him was LR Piccolo who was 100% in the dupe system and really took no damage at all from normal attacks and tank extremly well SA's. On the 2nd rotation I had Super Gogeta who again is a very powerful unit this time linked with SSB Vegeta who apart from also being a hard hitter also lowers the enemy's attack which again improves survivability. As floaters I used Kid Gohan who is a great support unit that both provides ki and ATK and DEF boost which helps you hit harder while taking hits better. I also used UI Omen Goku who is a decent unit, he didn't have his dokkan awakening at the time but he blocked nicely and dodged at clutch times. Last but not least I have used SSJ Rage Trunks who is a nice unit that could deal good amount of damage if enough orbs are collected, which he provides for himself. Dokkan mode I ofcourse would have performed with Super Gogeta because it would deal the most amount of damage while also providing me with a free senzu.

SUPER INT by u/SolokOriginel

Main Rotations: Super Gogeta - SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta / SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta- SSB Vegeta
On the 1st rotation we have Super Gogeta who again is both a powerful unit and can debuff enemy's attack, coupled with him is SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta who apart from being a very good alternate leader, and a hard hitter and blocker due to his LR stats and passive, if 6 turns pass and you have below 50% HP he will transform into Super Vegetto who is not only insanely powerful and tanky he can counter enemy's normal attacks and heal you to full HP while handling the enemy by himself and providing you with essentialy a free senzu. On the 2nd rotation we again have SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta this time coupled with SSB Vegeta who both can deal good damage and debuff the enemy's attack and DEF. as floaters we have SSJ Grade 3 Goku who is a great support unit, and SSJ3 Bardock who is both a hard hitter, a wonderful support unit once you drop below 70% HP and might also seal the enemy's SA. Last but not least we can use either SSJ Rage Trunks Hard Hitter who is a decent hard hitter, or UI Goku who has both a decent defence and deal good decent damage he can transform once below 50% HP into his stronger form which deals greater damage to the enemy.

SUPER INT by u/RevolutionaryFalcon

Main Rotations: Super Gogeta - SSJ3 Bardock / UI Goku- SSB Vegeta
Most of the units in this team have already been discussed but I shall present them again, for 1st rotation we have Super Gogeta who is a great unit coupled with SSJ3 Bardock who is both a hard hitter and a support unit once you drop below 70% HP. For the 2nd rotation we have UI Goku who is a decent unit that could transform into an even more powerful one once you drop below 50% HP, his partner is SSB Vegeta who as we said before is a great unit. SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta was a floater, but ofcourse once his transformation occurs you should put him in main phase the moment it happens. who can come extremly in clutch because once per battle the first time he apears he stuns the entire enemy team which is huge help, the main strategy is to have him apear around when you want him, and if he apears again before you finish the enemy you must make sure he doesn't get attacked even if it means screwing over your own rotations.

Recommended units

Super Gogeta - Function as team leader while also being an incredibly hard hitter that could take hits quite well and debuffs the enemy's attack.
SSJ3 Bardock- Great Unit that is both a good hard hitter, has a chance to seal the enemy's SA and is a great support unit if you drop below 70% HP.
SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta- Great unit that could also function as alternate leader for the team, very powerful offensively and great defensive asset and if 6 turns passed and you are below 50% HP he will Heal you to full HP and become the most powerful charcter you have taht could now also counter the enemys normal attacks and beat everyone all by himself
LR SSJ2 Gohan - Very powerful unit, who you could also run as this team leader, he will deal insane amount of damage to the enemy the more orbs you collect.
Chiaotzu- Not much to say here once a battle the 1st tike he appears he stuns the entire enemy team startegise with him well and his stun may come in a clutch.
SSB Vegeta- Very good unit that not only hits hard, but also debuff the enemy's attack and DEF.
UI Goku- Good unit that hits decently hard against the enemy and being a defensive asset that can transform into his more powerful version once you drop below 50% HP.
SSJ Grade 3 Goku- Very good support unit
Kid Gohan- Great support unit that not only provides you with + 3 ki but also provides a 40% boost to your ATK and DEF
SSJ Rage Trunks-Good unit that can hit hard and on teams where you run LR SSJ2 Gohan he can provide ki orbs for him to increase his overall DPT.
LR Piccolo - Very good defensive unit who you can freely max in the dupe system.
SSJ3 Teen Gohan - Very good offensive unit with decent defence
SSJ Goten- Very good tank due to him reducing incoming damage by 40% when faced against type disadvantage.
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2018.05.10 11:26 Kaminoseigi SUPER PHY Super Battle Road

Here is the SUPER PHY guide for SBR, the next guide will be posted in around 2-3 days due to the fact I prefer not to post it on Funday Friday and due to the fact i still need to finalise them. Thanks for anyone that donated teams for my guides. Most of them I haven't added yet, but once all guides are complete I will upload all of them to our JP wiki so they will be accessible to all all of the times and there everything will be updated. Once all guides are finished and all teams will be updated at the wiki I will notify you guys. Also in this guide I implemented teams that were suggested to me from fellow members and also teams I saw completing this post in the achivement flair, so if the user whom I have included his team as something else to add to my breakup of his team please do so in the comments and I will add info. Also like always keep suggesting teams in the comment section so I could add them to the guide in the future. The next 2 guides are going to be SUPER AGL and SUPER INT and then I will go the the more interesting and tad bit harder to clear part of the EXTREME teams. Ok, After this long introduction lets go to the guide itself:

Super Battle Road Super PHY Edition

Summary

  • Total Stages : 1 SUPER3 HARD stage
  • Total Stones: 1 from drops and additional 5 from mission rewards
  • Event gimmick : All bosses in for each battle have type disadvantage against you EXTREME INT, also all bosses are extremly strong so they deal large amount of damage and each boss have large amount of HP and DEF

Stages

There is one Stage ,that costs 0 stamina, for this event which have 4 boss phases. Before you enter this event you can either choose the special SA10 friend that is offered to you which in this case is SSJ3 Gotenks (note that if you choose him he has no dupe investments) or any other SUPER PHY units you find in your friend list. However you can't use any unit that doesn't belong to SUPER PHY. You can encounter between 2-5 enemies in each boss which is dependent on RNG. The bosses you can encounter are as followed
Battle Number Bosses
1 Vegeta,Nappa,Raditz / Dr. Gero,Android 19 / Cyborg Taopaipai,Master Shen
2 Ginyu,Recoom,Jheese,Guldo,Burter / 1st Form Freeza,Zarbon,Dodoria / Mecha Freeza,King Cold
3 Turles,Daiz,Amond,Cacao,Raisin / Cooler,Sauzer,Doure,Naise / Android 13,Android 14,Android 15
4 Majin Buu,Babidi / Perfect Cell,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr. / Bojack,Zangya,Kogu,Bido,Bujin
Upon beating this stage you recieve 1 ds as clear reward and an additional 5 ds + 1 Victory's Light Treasure from mission rewards.

General Event Tips

  • You have to bring not only damage dealers but you need to make sure your units have large DEF as well like or at the very least enough defence to not hinder you much.
  • You can bring units that are not only powerful on there own but if enough turns have passed and they are below a certain amount of HP they can heal you to full HP essentialy being a free senzu while also becoming much more powerful like SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta(Angel) and Goku who while doing decent damage can tank quite well and heal you to full HP if you fall beneath 10% of your HP, or bring units that can reduce damage recieved while also countering normal attacks like Super Vegito and Vegetto Blue or bring in units like SSJ Gotenks that isn't only a hard hitter but he can also seal the enemy SA.
  • Bring in items like icarus,senzu,ghost ushers, princess snake,android 18,dende,future bulma,nurse chichi to help you survive
  • Assuming all charcters attack you the same amount of times during a turn, which means no enemy attacks you more then the others you should first attack the boss allies. The first charcter enemy most of the time have more HP then his teamates but he also deals less damage then them(except for the final stage where he deals slightly more damage) so take out the other teamates before you beat the enemy that is the 1st to the left so you will have less enemies attacking you which will increase your overall chances of winning.However if you see that a certain charcter can attack you multiple times per turn, an amount which is greather than his other teamates, prioritize defeating him 1st. Always defeat first the enemy that attacks the most but in case no one attacks more then once or all the charcters hits you for the same amount of times during the battle what is written before is applied.
  • Keep your dokkan mode gauge at check and manage it properly, make sure that your hardest hitting units are the ones to perform dokkan mode attack so they could deal more damage and heal you up too full HP, and make sure as much as possible that you attack when you want to, near the begining of rotation and not when the enemy is going to be defeated anyway since most of his HP is already gone and there is only one enemy left.

Event Teams

Majin Buu Saga by u/kaminoseigi

Main Rotations: Super Vegetto - SSJ3 Gotenks / Super Vegetto - SSJ Gotenks
On the 1st rotation I used Super Vegetto who is a great unit, he reduces incoming damage from normal attacks by 50% and counters them, all the while getting stronger by 10% each time he gets attacked( can do this 10 times max) and buffing allies SA multiplier by 30% of his allies. Meaning he is a very strong unit both offensively and deffensively that greatly raises your survival chance while in this case also being the team leader he supplies 170% boost to HP/DEF and 130% to ATK as opposed to SSJ3 Gotenks buff that supplies 120% to all stats. SSJ3 Gotenks is the partner of Super Vegetto on first rotation, they share togather + 2 ki which makes sure they will SA consistently and in SSJ3 Gotenks case he can still reach his 11 ki sa easily which his is strongest SA, overall SSJ3 Gotenks is a very powerful unit that will help you in clearing this event. On 2nd rotation we have Super Vegetto this time partnered with SSJ Gotenks that apart from being a good damage dealer serves a greater purpose which is to seal the enemy's SA which won't only improve survivability it will make sure Super Vegetto doesn't get SA by that enemy which means he is going to counter and reduce the damage he receives which will also greatly improve winning chances. As floaters I have used SSJ2 Teen Gohan and SSJ2 Goku who are both very good support unit. Also I have used Vegetto Blue even though he doesn't benefit from leader skill at all he still has type advantage and reduces incoming damage from normal attacks by 30% and counters them, while also performing up to 3 additional attacks (can reach 4 if duped) all of which could be SA, and mine was 2 dupes investment so he was still able to deal damage and fulfil his purpose to counter well. When I performed Dokkan Mode SA I did it with SSJ3 Gotenks to deal as much damage as possible while recovering my entire HP bar without using items.
u/kaiokenmasters send me a variation of this team where it is the exact same team only SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) is in the team instead of SSJ2 Goku and he is also the leader of the team and the friend leader aswell instead of Super Vegetto. In this setup I would pair SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) - Super Vegetto and Vegetto Blue - SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel)

SUPER PHY by u/RevolutionaryFalcon

Main Rotation: SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) - Super Vegetto / SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) - Vegetto Blue
u/RevolutionaryFalcon Told me he didn't have any particular rotation apart from the fact that on his 1st win he used a 100% SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) Friend Lead so he keeped him on rotation. However I made the best roation you can do with his chosen team setup. On 1st rotation we have the team leader SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) , this unit is a great unit he hits incredibly hard and tanks greatly due to his passive and LR stats and if he manages to transform he will heal you to full HP and becomes much more powerful on the way. His partner on the 1st main rotaion is Super Vegetto pre transformation they share + 3 ki and post transformation they shares + 5 ki. Super Vegetto as I already explained in my team section is a great unit and even though he gets the 90% boost instead of the 170% boost he is still a great unit on this team for reasons mentioned above. On 2nd rotation we again have SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) this time paired with Vegetto Blue and they share togather + 2 ki pre transformation and + 4 ki post transformation. Vegetto Blue is a very powerful units from reasons mentioned in my section, and in this team case since he now benefits from the leader skill he can deal high damage against the enemies. as floaters we have SSJ Gotenks who is both a good hitter and he can seal the enemy SA. We also have as floater SSJ3 Gotenks Who is a very poweful unit that can deal lot of damage against the boss, and he gets the 170% buff from the leader skill, the reason he isn't part of the main rotation is because he shares no Ki links with SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) pre transformation which will hinder them both, and also because for the first few turns SSJ3 Gotenks actually lowers his own DEF so it is better for him to be a floater. For last option we have 2 cases, when u/RevolutionaryFalcon won using a 100% SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) he used SSJ Bardock as his last floater. SSJ Bardock is both a good support unit and he can also seal the enemy's SA. The next time u/RevolutionaryFalcon won he used a free dupe path SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) and this time used instead the f2p Goku from the 3rd anniversery which was 100% in the dupe system. This Goku can both tank nicely and more importently in case you fall beneath 10% HP and survive while still not triggering SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) transformation then Goku will heal you to full HP.

SUPER PHY by u/Jackson_Simmons

Main Rotation: SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) - SSJ Gotenks / Vegetto Blue - SSJ Future Trunks
On the 1st rotation we have SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) who as I said before is a great unit, and this time he is the friend leader paired with him is SSJ Gotenks who is both hard hitter and SA sealer , they share togahter + 3 ki pre transformation and + 5 ki post transformation. On the second rotation we have Vegetto Blue who as I said before is a great unit who both hits hard and counters normal attacks while reducing 30% incoming damage from them. This time his partner is SSJ Future Trunks who is a great card, he has deals very high damage and has lots of DEF due to him being an LR and he has a great chance to crit which will boost his damage by a bit togather they share + 2 ki. For floaters we have SSJ3 Gotenks who is a very strong unit, SSJ Bardock who is both a support unit and SA sealer and lastly we have SSJ3 GT Goku who is also a very great support unit.

SUPER PHY by u/Churumelos

Main Rotations: SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) - Super Vegetto / SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) - Vegetto Blue
The main rotations of this team are like u/RevolutionaryFalcon so there is nothing new to add to this setup. However in this team we have SSJ2 Kefla as floater, she brings few stuff to the team, she gives phy orbs which will help SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) get much more ki which greatly helps him since before his transformation he can suffer a bit from ki issues, the reason I haven't listed her as main rotation is because putting 2 charcters that can counter each turn can greatly increase your survivability. Apart from changing INT orbs into PHY orbs she increases her own ATK and DEF by 12% for every ki sphere obtained, she launches an additional attack that could become a super attack and she has a medium chance to dodge all attacks. The other floater is Berseker Kale who is a very powerful unit that deals immense damage and increases her own attack by 120% while doing 2 attacks with achance that her second attack becomes an SA. For last floater we have SSJ Bardock who is a very good support unit as long as you have more than 30% HP which shouldn't be much of a problem with this team and in addition he can seal SA.

SUPER PHY by u/DR809

Main Rotations: Super Vegetto - SSJ3 Gotenks / Vegetto Blue - SSJ Future Trunks
First rotation we have SSJ3 Gotenks who is a great hard hitter, for the first few turns he lowers his DEF so beware not to take to many attacks with him, but due to the face he shares only + 2 ki with his partner he can relativly easily reach his 11 ki sa which is by far his strongest. Super Vegetto is the other main rotation unit whom I have talked about many times already, he is a great unit and the more he gets attacked the stronger he becomes. On the 2nd rotation we have Vegetto Blue who is a great unit that reduces damage from normal attacks, attack multiple times per turn and counter normal attacks which makes him a greay unit. His partner is SSJ Future Trunks who is a great card due to being an LR and and he can crit 50% of the times due to his passive(at free dupe) therfore dealing lots of damage to the enemy. For floater we have the other SSJ3 Gotenks. Also we have the great support units SSJ2 Teen Gohan and Z Sword Gohan who greatly boosts your units overall dpt through their support passive.

Recommended units

SSJ3 Gotenks - Great unit, he is the SUPER PHY team leader while also being an incredibly powerful card espacially if you are able to reach his 11 ki SA.
SSJ Goku(Angel) and SSJ Vegeta (Angel) - This unit is amazing, he has high ATK and DEF you can run him also as the team leader, and if you reach his transformation conditions not only does he become much more powerful and tankier but he also heals you to full HP which could be a life saver in this mode.
Super Vegetto- Great unit, he hits hard tanks well and counters normal attacks, you can run him as team leader when building teams for this event.
Vegetto Blue- Very powerful unit due to his counters and built in additional attacks that is also a great tank.
SSJ Bardock- Very good support unit who can also seal the enemy's SA
SSJ3 GT Goku- Good support unit
SSJ Future Trunks- Great unit, he is incredibly strong and tanky due to his LR stat, and you can also choose to run him as this team leader
SSJ Gotenks - Very powerful unit that both links well within this team and can seal the enemy's SA
SSJ2 Teen Gohan- Wonderful support unit that you can also use if Super Vegetto is the team leader
SSJ2 Goku- Good support unit that you can also use if Super Vegetto is the team leader
Goku- Good f2p unit, can tank well if you 100% him but most importently he can heal you to full HP if you drop beneath 10% of your total HP
Pan- She wasn't mentioned in the guide but she is also a very good support unit
Z Sword Gohan - Great Support unit for this team that provides both ki and ATK and DEF increase
SSJ2 Kefla- Good unit that both gives orbs, increases her own attack per orbs obtained,attacks twice per turn and has medium chance to dodge all attacks.
Berseker Kale - She is a good hard hitter for this team that links well and can attack twice a turn with a chance of doing 2 SA (3 if she gets an additional)
Whis-Only once per battle once you drop below 30% HP he will heal you to full HP which is essentialy a free senzu.
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2018.05.09 09:30 Kaminoseigi SUPER TEQ Super Battle Road

This is the second team guide for this event, I am posting it now because the guide was mostly done anyway and I would like to add teams you guys used to clear this event to the guide, so if you want you can post your team setup in the comments and I will add it. The next guides will probably be published later because I need to finish writing them. The next guide after this will be SUPER PHY because it is also mostly done already. Now to the actual guide.

Super Battle Road Super TEQ Edition

Summary

  • Total Stages : 1 SUPER3 HARD stage
  • Total Stones: 1 from drops and additional 5 from mission rewards
  • Event gimmick : All bosses in for each battle have type disadvantage against you EXTREME AGL, also all bosses are extremly strong so they deal large amount of damage and each boss have large amount of HP and DEF

Stages

There is one Stage ,that costs 0 stamina, for this event which have 4 boss phases. Before you enter this event you can either choose the special SA10 friend that is offered to you which in this case is SSJ3 Angel Goku (note that if you choose him he has no dupe investments) or any other SUPER TEQ units you find in your friend list. However you can't use any unit that doesn't belong to SUPER TEQ. You can encounter between 2-5 enemies in each boss which is dependent on RNG. The bosses you can encounter are as followed
Battle Number Bosses
1 Vegeta,Nappa,Raditz / Dr. Gero,Android 19 / Cyborg Taopaipai,Master Shen
2 Ginyu,Recoom,Jheese,Guldo,Burter / 1st Form Freeza,Zarbon,Dodoria / Mecha Freeza,King Cold
3 Turles,Daiz,Amond,Cacao,Raisin / Cooler,Sauzer,Doure,Naise / Android 13,Android 14,Android 15
4 Majin Buu,Babidi / Perfect Cell,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr. / Bojack,Zangya,Kogu,Bido,Bujin
Upon beating this stage you recieve 1 ds as clear reward and an additional 5 ds + 1 Victory's Light Treasure from mission rewards.

General Event Tips

  • You have to bring not only damage dealers but you need to make sure your units have large DEF as well like ir at the very leadt enough defence to not hinder you much.
  • Bring in units that could debuff enemy ATK like Paikuhan and Whis or units like Kid Gohan who can heal or units like Bulma and Kid Trunks and Candy Vegetto who could be good tanks if their passive procs or units like Jaco who can stun all enemies the 1st time he apears in a battle or units like SSJ4 Gogeta who in addition to being a great unit both offensively and deffensively also has a great chance to counter enemy's SA and he also debuffs EXTREME Enemies ATK and DEF.
  • Bring in items like icarus,senzu,ghost ushers, princess snake,android 18,dende,future bulma,nurse chichi to help you survive
  • Assuming all charcters attack you the same amount of times during a turn, which means no enemy attacks you more then the others you should first attack the boss allies. The first charcter enemy most of the time have more HP then his teamates but he also deals less damage then them(except for the final stage where he deals slightly more damage) so take out the other teamates before you beat the enemy that is the 1st to the left so you will have less enemies attacking you which will increase your overall chances of winning.However if you see that a certain charcter can attack you multiple times per turn, an amount which is greather than his other teamates, prioritize defeating him 1st. Always defeat first the enemy that attacks the most but in case no one attacks more then once or all the charcters hits you for the same amount of times during the battle what is written before is applied.
  • Keep your dokkan mode gauge at check and manage it properly, make sure that your hardest hitting units are the ones to perform dokkan mode attack so they could deal more damage and heal you up too full HP, and make sure as much as possible that you attack when you want to, near the begining of rotation and not when the enemy is going to be defeated anyway since most of his HP is already gone and there is only one enemy left.

Event Teams

SUPER TEQ by u/R0H4N_101

Main Rotations: SSJ3 Angel Goku - SSJ4 Gogeta / SSJ4 Gogeta- SSJ3 Gotenks
On the 1st rotation we have SSJ3 Angel Goku who while being the team leader is also a hard hitter and has a rare chance to stun the enemy which can be a life saver in certain situation, and he has enough DEF to take hits well. Linked with him is SSJ4 Gogeta who is both an incredibly hard hitter with good def and his main asset is that he has 75% chance to counter the enemy's SA which both deals an additional high damage to the enemy and saves you from the burnt of the SA and also he debuffs EXTREME enemies ATK and DEF On the next rotation we again have the SSJ4 Gogeta this time he is linked with SSJ3 Gotenks who is a hard hitter, they share togather 5 ki which helps both super conistentnly however it doesnt let SSJ3 Gotenks reach his 11 ki SA which deals the highest damage between his SA however he can still hit decently hard.For floaters we have Vegetto who is a great support unit that boosts his rotation allies ATK and DEF by 30% and helps them hit harder and tank damage better. We also have LR SSJ Goku who is a f2p LR that due to his campaign is 100% in the dupe system which makes him hit decent amount while also having high DEF due to his overall stats. Lastly we have Kid Trunks who is a good tank because he reduces damage he recieves by 40%.Dokkan Mode with either SSJ3 Angel Goku or SSJ4 Gogeta to deal the highest damage and retrieve your overall HP to max essentialy giving you a free senzu.

SUPER TEQ by u/SolokOriginel

Main Rotations: SSJ3 Angel Goku - SSJ4 Gogeta / SSJ4 Gogeta- Vegetto Blue
The 1st rotation is exactly the same as in u/R0H4N_101 team setup so there is nothing else to add here. On secons rotation we again have SSJ4 Gogeta and this time is partner is Vegetto Blue who is a great unit that deals huge amount of damage while also increasing his own overall DEF after each of his attacks. If you want to initiate a dokkan mode attacks with this team use either SSJ3 Angel Goku or SSJ4 Gogeta to deal the highest damage and retrieve your overall HP to max essentialy giving you a free senzu. For floaters we have Jackie Chun who is a f2p unit that can seal enemy's SA. We also have the f2p SSJ2 Aniversery Goku who is a good support unit that will boost your allies ki + 2 and ATK + 20% as long as you have more then 50% HP also he has a chance to stun the enemy. Last but not lease we have SSJ3 Gotenks who this time is a floater, pair him with SSJ3 Angel Goku to help him reach his 11 ki SA.

SUPER TEQ by u/TriLexMiester

Main Rotations: Candy Vegetto - SSJ4 Gogeta / SSJ4 Gogeta- Bulma
This team consistes of incredibly hard hitter like SSJ3 Angel Goku and SSJ4 Gogeta . In the first rotation we have SSJ4 Gogeta who hit very hard and if you perform dokkan mode attack it should be with either him or SSJ3 Angel Goku. SSJ4 Gogeta main asset is that he has 75% to counter enemy's SA which could be a life saver and that coupled with his high ATK and DEF means he is a must have in both rotation, paired with him we have Candy Vegetto who has 50% to evade each attack directed towards him and can even stun the enemy rarely. For the second rotation apart of SSJ4 Gogeta You can really go whatever way you want and depanding on how much you are getting attacked. You can use Bulma who is a very good Tank when her passive procs and she can also heal you up by 7,777 HP for every Rainbow orbs she collects, you can use LR SSJ Goku who due to his campaign is essentialy a 100% F2P LR who has very good stats thanks to this and could deal decent damage while being a good blocker. for floaters we also have SSJ3 Angel Goku who is a very hard hitting character and we also have SSJ Gotenks who really is a filler unit that should function as floater. Therfore you have 2 viable options for a partner to SSJ4 Gogeta in the 2nd rotation however in my opinion Bulma is the best because she can both slightly heal and when her passive procs she will reduce all attacks during that turn once it procs once. the other decent pair option as said above is LR SSJ Goku who will hit harder than Bulma but tank slightly less good, but he still is a very viable option to run in main rotation.

SUPER TEQ by u/kaminoseigi

Main Rotations: SSJ4 Gogeta - SSJ3 Gotenks / SSJ4 Gogeta - Bulma
This is the team that I u/kaminoseigi used in order to beat this event.The team needed a lot of startegy to beat the event. I used SSJ4 Gogeta so he and SSJ3 Gotenks who are thr main damage dealrs in this team will get a bigger boost while also giving the rest of the team 50% HP/ATK/DEF and + 3 ki. This setup yielded more DPT and HP for this team. The 1st rotation works the same as in u/R0H4N_101 2nd rotation only here the damage dealer get a double 150% boost instead of one 120% and one 150% boost. The 2nd Rotation consisted of SSJ4 Gogeta who is the team leader while alsk having large amount of ATK and DEF and also can counter enemy's SA , with him on rotation I used Bulma who both heals for 7,777 HP for every rainbow orb she obtained and is a f2p 100% unit and most importently she has good chance to reduce incoming damage by 70% and once it procs it is available for the rest od the turn which makes her a great and valubale asset. In this team setup the supports are if great importwnt and managing when each of them apears and activates his passive was a major factor in beating this event. Jaco passive skill is that on the 1st time(only) he apears in a battle he stuns the entire enemy team. I made sure that each time Jaco will apear on the 1st or 2nd rotation of a battle so that his passive procs and that he will not return again before finishing the phase because apart from his passive he is a liability. If it meant puting him on maim rotation for 1 turn so he wont get hit or anything else to ensure he is only helping me and not hindering my effort. Kid Gohan is another grrat unit who heals your entire hp(only once per battle) when your HP drops below 30%. I again made sure he apears wehn i need him the most, if i knew i will need to heal in the begining of the next battle or i didnt want him to come because i knew i will have a dokkan mode attack that would heal me to full hp i would sometimes put him on main rotation so it will align perfectly as I wanted. The final floater was Whis who lowers enemy's ATK after he SA him and then either lowering attackes enemyy's ATK by 20% or having high chance to stun him. Either way Whis proved very helpful.

SUPER TEQ "OVERKILL Team"

Main Rotation: SSJ3 Goku- Vegetto Blue / SSJ3 Goku - SSJ4 Gogeta
This team is the APTimal team for this mode. As you can see above I showcased teams that could beat it with strategy, and also while not neccessarly having all the top units, espacially the team I myself used. But I wanted to showcase how insanely poweful SUPER TEQ could really be. In this setup you can easily deal with the event, the entire team is built around SSJ3 Goku and you need to ensure he gets his 18 ki SA and then this team can definitetly can almost one shot every phase. SSJ3 Goku hits insanely hard damage, Vegetto Blue shares ki with him and is the 2nd hardest hitter unit on this team, they can togather easily clear away the enemies in turns you face against only 2/3 of them, and SSJ3 Goku can take out everyone with a dokkan mode attack. SSJ4 Gogeta Again is a very powerful unit that could also counter enemy's SA. Tenshinhan is the best partner to SSJ3 Goku goku, I put him as a floater so he won't be too much defensive liablity but when on rotation everyone will hit and block insanely harder. SSJ2 Gohan is another great support unit that not only boosts everyone on the team he is a great linking partner to SSJ3 Goku. And SSJ3 Angel Goku is both a high damage dealing unit and a great partner to SSJ3 Goku. There isn't much strategy involved here excpet making sure that SSJ3 Goku is in the middle so he could get the most ammount of orbs, unless he gets more on the 1st slot and then you should put him there. Again you definitely don't need all these units to beat this event, and many people will not have all of them anyway but I wanted to showcase an insanely good team you can build just for fun, and any of you out there who do happens to posses all this units, you can easily build this team and clear this event, ofcourse even this team can be screwed up due to RNG in the first phase but it can easily clear this event

Recommended units

SSJ3 Angel Goku - Function as team leader while also being an incredibly hard hitter that could take hits decently and have a chance to stun the enemy.
SSJ4 Gogeta- Great Unit that is both incredibly powerful while still having bery high DEF and 75% to counter enwmy SA. He can function both as team leader or regular team unit. You can also run one SSJ3 Angel Goku as your team leader and take a SSJ4 Gogeta friend which due to his passive could be incredibley useful espacially since he also debuffs EXTREME enemies ATK and DEF
SSJ3 Goku- This character is an absolute powerhouse if you have him you can sometime one shot the enemy and he is insanely powerful and have decent DEF due to being an LR. DPT wise the path that will help you deal as much damage as possible is to run your own SSJ3 Angel Goku as lead while using SSJ3 Goku friend this way you will have 2 of him and will deal large amount of damage every turn
Vegetto Blue - another great unit he deals tons of damage and the more he attacks the stronger and tankier he becomes, and since this stage last for a while he can get enough boost to deal insane damage against the enemy.
Jaco- Not much to say here once a battle the 1st tike he appears he stuns the entire enemy team startegise with him well and his stun may come in a clutch.
SSJ3 Gotenks- hard hitter that links eell eith the team, when he is a floater if you have a unit on the turn he can be linked with that would help him reach his 11 ki SA link him with it because his 12 ki SA is much weaker than his 11 ki one due to extreme multiplier.
Bulma- If her passive procs she is a great tank. Also she heals you for every rainbow orb you get.
Kid Trunks- Good tank due to him reducing incoming damage by 40%.
Vegetto- Good support unit that will boost your ATK and DEF by 30%.
Kid Gohan- Once your HP drops below 30% only once pwr battle he will heal you to full HP. Strategise around him well and you essentialy have a free senzu.
SSJ2 Aniversery Goku - Good support unit that could also stun the enemy.
Candy Vegetto- He can both stun the enemy and has high chance to dosge incoming attacks.
SSJ2 Gohan - He is a great support unit
Tenshinhan - Great support unit
LR SSJ Goku- Very good unit espacially if you maxed him during his campaign he can be a very good tank who deals decent amount of damage to the enemy.
Great Saiyaman 2 - She is also a decent unit because she lowers AGL enemies attack by 25% which helps your overall survivability
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2018.05.08 20:08 Kaminoseigi SUPER STR Super Battle Road

As promised here is the 1st stage guide for this event. I will post a guide like this once a day, or once every couple of days so each stage will have it focus and so it can be edited more per users suggestions. I will gladly add anyone's team to the guide including analysis, anyone that want to suggest his team please do so in the comments and I will gladly add it. Now for the main guide:

Super Battle Road Super STR Edition

Summary

  • Total Stages : 1 SUPER3 HARD stage
  • Total Stones: 1 from drops and additional 5 from mission rewards
  • Event gimmick : All bosses in for each battle have type disadvantage against you EXTREME PHY, also all bosses are extremly strong so they deal large amount of damage and each boss have large amount of HP and DEF

Stages

There is one Stage ,that costs 0 stamina, for this event which have 4 boss phases. Before you enter this event you can either choose the special SA10 friend that is offered to you which in this case is SSJ4 Goku (note that if you choose him he has no dupe investments) or any other SUPER STR units you find in your friend list. However you can't use any unit that doesn't belong to SUPER STR. You can encounter between 2-5 enemies in each boss which is dependent on RNG. The bosses you can encounter are as followed
Battle Number Bosses
1 Vegeta,Nappa,Raditz / Dr. Gero,Android 19 / Cyborg Taopaipai,Master Shen
2 Ginyu,Recoom,Jheese,Guldo,Burter / 1st Form Freeza,Zarbon,Dodoria / Mecha Freeza,King Cold
3 Turles,Daiz,Amond,Cacao,Raisin / Cooler,Sauzer,Doure,Naise / Android 13,Android 14,Android 15
4 Majin Buu,Babidi / Perfect Cell,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr.,Cell Jr. / Bojack,Zangya,Kogu,Bido,Bujin
Upon beating this stage you recieve 1 ds as clear reward and an additional 5 ds + 1 Victory's Light Treasure from mission rewards.

General Event Tips

  • You have to bring not only damage dealers but you need to make sure your units have large DEF as well like Vegetto Blue for example.
  • Bring in units that could debuff enemy ATK like Paikuhan or units like LR Beerus and whis and LR Genkidama Goku who can heal or units like SSJ3 Vegeta who is a great tank or units like SSJ2 Vegeta and Bulma and SSJ4 Goku who can counter enemy attacks can greatly increase you winning chances
  • Assuming all charcters attack you the same amount of times during a turn, which means no enemy attacks you more then the others you should first attack the boss allies. The first charcter enemy most of the time have more HP then his teamates but he also deals less damage then them(except for the final stage where he deals slightly more damage) so take out the other teamates before you beat the enemy that is the 1st to the left so you will have less enemies attacking you which will increase your overall chances of winning.However if you see that a certain charcter can attack you multiple times per turn, an amount which is greather than his other teamates, prioritize defeating him 1st. Always defeat first the enemy that attacks the most but in case no one attacks more then once or all the charcters hits you for the same amount of times during the battle what is written before is applied.
  • Keep your dokkan mode gauge at check and manage it properly, make sure that your hardest hitting units are the ones to perform dokkan mode attack so they could deal more damage and heal you up too full HP, and make sure as much as possible that you attack when you want to, near the begining of rotation and not when the enemy is going to be defeated anyway since most of his HP is already gone and there is only one enemy left.
  • Bring in items like icarus,senzu,ghost ushers, princess snake,android 18,dende,future bulma,nurse chichi to help you survive

Event Teams

SUPER STR by u/Jackson_Simmons

Main Rotations: Gogeta - Vegetto Blue / SSJ3 Vegeta- Genkidama Goku
In the 1st rotation we have Gogeta who even though he is one of the oldest dokkan fest exclusives in the game can still dish decent amount of damage, and if he will get an EZA in the future he will become much greater, Gogeta has decent DEF though he doesn't buff his own apart from the buff he gets from leader skill so he may be hit for more then the other units but if he has dupe investments he will have a greater defence since he has an S rank dupe system, however in u/Jackson_Simmons he had only 1 dupe so he opted to try and avoid Gogeta while letting Vegetto Blue taking most of the damage . Most Importently though he shares 4 ki with Vegetto Blue who is the hardest hitter on this team, which helps him reach his 18ki SA more easily. Vegetto Blue is an amazing unit he starts the battle by giving himself +2ki but the less HP you have he gives himself more ki and also he hit for incredibly hard and has large amount of DEF since he is both and LR and he is essentialy almost F2P which means you can have him 100% in the dupe path. Since you fight through many battles you will be able to activate Dokkan Mode and it is highly advisable that if possible Vegetto Blue will be the one to initiate Dokkan Mode because not only will he be able to kill most enemies with it and deal the highest damage, he will completly heal your team by initiating the attack which is essentialy like a free senzu which will increase your longevity and overall winning chances. On the next rotation we have SSJ3 Vegeta who is a great tank that will take almost no damage as long as the battle doesn't take more than 7 turns and with this team the battle won't take that long and he can also stun the enemy which can also help increase you survival and winning chances. Paired with SSJ3 Vegeta we have Genkidama Goku who is also a f2p LR which means he have high stats and can be 100% in the dupe system while also possessing large DEF due to his passive and he also recovers 7,777 HP with every ki sphere he obtains which can also increase the team longevity also after his SA he buffs his allies which will help them hit harder and finish the bosses faster. As floaters we have Kid Gohan Hard Hitter who is a free level 140 EZA unit who is 100% in the dupe path that is a good tank and decent damage leader due to his passive. Also we have Bee Pan who is also F2P unit that heals you up when she performs SA which boosts your overall winning chances since it can save you an item, and also has high chance to reduce enemy attack by 50% and in addition she can stun the enemy she performed SA against. Last but not least we have SSJ4 Goku who is the team leader. He is both an incredible damage dealer and increases his DEF by 30% after he SA and have 30% chance to counter the enemy. The reason u/Jackson_Simmons didn't use him as main rotation unit is because he had no dupes therfore would be a liablity in terms of his own defence therfore he decided to make him a floater and put someone like Kid Gohan in the main rotation, however if you do have dupes for SSJ4 Goku and using this or a similar team you might want to put him in the main rotation because then his DEF would get much higher, but in his current state with no dupes it was the preferable route since all of his f2p units were 100% in the dupe paths.

SUPER STR by u/kaminoseigi

Main Rotations: SSJ2 Vegeta and Bulma - Vegetto Blue / SSJ3 Vegeta- SSJ4 Goku
This is the team I ,u/kaminoseigi, used to clear this event 10 times on my first rotation I had the amazing combo of SSJ2 Vegeta and Bulma and Vegetto Blue which are both amazingly good units that I also personally had 100% in the dupe system. On Vegetto Blue and why he is amazing I already talked about he basicly has both incredibly high DEF and as a result takes almost no damage and he shares +4 ki with SSJ2 Vegeta and Bulma through links which means he will reach his 18 ki super a lot of times, espacially with the help of his own passive later on. SSJ2 Vegeta and Bulma himself is amazing he can both counter normal attacks and he has amazing attack and DEF so even if he takes a super he won't take that much damage, he buffs his own attack after he SA so the counters after his attack will deal slightly more damage and he help Vegetto Blue to consistenly reach his 18 ki super. On second rotation I used SSJ3 Vegeta who is an amazingly good tank which on occasion can also stun the enemy and I used SSJ4 Goku with him on rotation which had both large DEF and dealt large amount of damage since I used fully duped / duped friends, mine on the other hand was a floater because he has no dupes and as I said it makes him a defensive liability. Gogeta has I said is a good hitter but you should beware of the amount of damage you take with him, mine was a floater so he didn't take much and if he did I have him 100% in the dupe system so he had a decent DEF. Lastly I used (on global ofcourse) Paikuhan who both greatly lowers attack and he also greatly lowers DEF which helps with your overall survivability, when he have no dupes at all you might want to run other units but mine has 3 dupes so he worked great on the team. I also managed to clear it with SSJ3 GT Goku instead, in this case he functioned as great support unit that made my units hit harder so they could finish the event faster, and when he was on rotation with his best friend SSJ4 Goku he greatly boosted his attack.A 3rd option would be to use Ultimate Gohan who is not only a good damage dealer, he buffs your allies DEF by 50% with his passive which helps your team tankiness. In this setup you either want SSJ4 Goku to perform the Dokkan Mode or Vegetto Blue so you could finish the enemy and heal your hp back.

SUPER STR by u/SolokOriginel

Main Rotations: SSJ3 Vegeta - Vegetto Blue / Jiren- SSJ4 Goku
On the 1st rotation we have the already familiar units SSJ3 Vegeta who is a great tank for the 1st 7 turns who can also stun the enemy while his partner Vegetto Blue both has incredibly high ATK and DEF and is a f2p LR who you can use 100% max in dupe system assuming you put in the orbs also he is a great team leader to use as a friend if you want to run 2 of him or even as your own if you don't have SSJ4 Goku . on the 2nd rotation we have the team leader SSJ4 Goku who is a good damage dealer, has decent DEF and 35% to counter enemy's SA. His partner is Jiren who is both a very powerful and tanky unit and his main asset is that he could stun the enemy and if he does also deal critical damage upon it. You should use dokkan mode with either Vegetto Blue or SSJ4 Goku since they will deal the most damage while healing your HP to the max. As floaters we have SSJ GT Trunks who is a decent hitter with good DEF, we also have SSJ2 Vegeta and Bulma who is a great unit due to his high ATK ,and good DEF but mostly due to his counter of normal attacks. Last but not least he have SSJ3 GT Goku who is a great support unit and the best pal of SSJ4 Goku.

Recommended units

SSJ4 Goku: He is the leader of SUPER STR team and therfore almost a must have unit ,apart from that he is a very hard hitter and has decent DEF so he lot of damage in this event.
Ultimate Gohan: He is a very good unit due to his passive whice buff DEF by 50% for SUPER type which will help his allies to block good in this event also he can deal a fair amount of damage in this event.
SSJ3 Vegeta- Amazing tank which will take almost no damage in the first 7 turns of this event also he has a chance to stun the enemy.
SSJ2 Caulifla- her chance to dodge could be a life saver in this event and she is completly f2p.
Paikuhan (global exclusive)- He link well with SSJ4 Goku and also greatly debuffs both the enemy's attack and DEF which makes him a great asset.
Genki Dama Goku- Great unit who can not only hit hard and block well but can also heal your HP while collecting orbs,
SSJ Cabba- Great support units for SUPER STR units.
SSJ3 GT Goku- Good support unit who don't only raises allies ATK with teams where SSJ4 Goku is a main rotation unit he is his best linking partner. Also when his passive activates and he transforms into Golden Oozaru you talr no damage which could be a life saver in certain situations.
SSJ2 Vegeta and Bulma– Magnificent units who can counter normal ATK and do insane amounts of damage while also being a very good blocker,
Vegetto Blue - This unit with 100% stat is as good as you can have, have huge amount of DEF and ATK and can easily deal with this event
Jiren - Good card that can deal an high ammount of damage and have good DEF. Apart from that he greatly lowers DEF and has medium chance to stun all enemies which not only ensures he gets a crit but could change the tide of the battle on this mode. On JP he is better due to his dokkan awakening into Jiren but he will also be great on global when he soon releases.
Toppo- Great support unit that not only will boost your allies will also reduce the enemy DEF by 50%. In JP he is even better due to him getting his dokkan awakening into Hakaishin Toppo which makes him an even better support unit but he is still great to use as his undokanned mode.
LR Beerus and Whis- Good unit, he doesn't have too much synergy on this team and won't reach his 18 Ki super most of the time however he will still deal decent damage due to his LR stat and take hits well as well and also he recovers HP when he SA which helps to boost your overall survivability.
SSJ GT Trunks- Good damage dealing unit
SSJ Rage Future Trunks- Good unit who has nice atk but mostly a good tank that not only reduces damage recieved by 40% he increases his own DEF the lower your HP is the tankier he becomes.
If anyone wants to view the General SBR guide where I explain about the mode itself generally you can view it here
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